Swedish election

[LordBerenger]

More than proud to get rid of them. Who'd want a government that uses USA and the UK as role models.

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[Bittersteel]

More than proud to get rid of them. Who'd want a government that uses USA and the UK as role models.

I'd say it's the other way around. Especially for the US. 'Rödgrönröran' are against eachother 80% of the time and without SD backing them they won't be able to run their politics and we'll have another election, hopefully putting back the strongest government Sweden has ever seen. They made Sweden one of the worlds richest countries and best to live in according to SPI (Social Progress Index). I'd like to see Stefan Löfven manage Sweden trough the global financial crisis.

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Jag hörde att dem tänker på att sparka Anders Borg? Är det sant?

[Angantyr]

A Danish article about the historical background for the strong feminist movement in Sweden, and how and why it differs so much from its Danish counterpart just across Øresund:

'Why are the Swedes so feministic?'
http://videnskab.dk/sporg-videnskaben/hvorfor-er-svenskere-sa-feministiske

[Bittersteel]

The Swedish crown (Currency) is already dropping. All over the world people are selling it, great start for the new government.

[GRANDMOM]

The Swedish crown (Currency) is already dropping. All over the world people are selling it, great start for the new government.

Might wanna add that it has been dropping since march

Feel free to post what has been so great about the allinass *raising boardshield, incoming shitstorm

[Bittersteel]

Not as quickly as it's been the past days.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, Granny. If you would have looked like three posts above you. There's a reason why Sweden is one of the richest countries in the world and now SD (The social democrats, not to be confused with the swedish democrats) has brought up a new budget. It would be great if they, you know, had the money to pay for everything they promise.


plebs


Läs detta:

http://m.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.2487811-svartmalning-i-valdebatten-forsvagar-var-demokrati

[GRANDMOM]

Not as quickly as it's been the past days.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, Granny. If you would have looked like three posts above you. There's a reason why Sweden is one of the richest countries in the world and now SD (The social democrats, not to be confused with the swedish democrats) has brought up a new budget. It would be great if they, you know, had the money to pay for everything they promise.


plebs

I saw the post - so what ur saying is that sweden became the richest land during the last 8 years? I know you dont mean that, that has been building up during the last 100 years, from which the rightwingers has managed to be in charge perhaps 5-6 elections.

The part where u say the "rödgrönröra" is against each other in 80% of the issues is wrong, they have different views - yes. The readymade "valmanifest" from the allians is a very new thing in swedish politics, and for the last say 32 elections we have done pretty well without one - but propaganda from the rightwing has u believing that this is the normal way of doing things, if younhave no "valmanifest" you cant rule the country, it isnt a valid point and it hasnt been a valid point - ever before.

So what exactly have the allians done?

[GRANDMOM]

Not as quickly as it's been the past days.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, Granny. If you would have looked like three posts above you. There's a reason why Sweden is one of the richest countries in the world and now SD (The social democrats, not to be confused with the swedish democrats) has brought up a new budget. It would be great if they, you know, had the money to pay for everything they promise.


plebs

Sorry såg inte din länk, om du vill ha ett bemötande på den får det bli på svenska - har redan bemött den ett par gånger i andra sammanhang, och den är enligt mig full av bs eftersom den tar statistik ur sitt sammanhang, förenklar ekonomin och tar inte med parametrar som påverkar.


Läs detta:

http://m.gp.se/nyheter/debatt/1.2487811-svartmalning-i-valdebatten-forsvagar-var-demokrati

[Bittersteel]

You wouldn't say that handling the global financial crisis that hit the entire world so well that the debt has gone down from 40,7% of BNP to 34,2% is good? Under the last eight years BNP has risen with 451,3 billion (now 373 700 per capita), and another 363 billion to the states assets. Like I said, I'd like to see how Löfven and his communist buddies would have handled that. Like I said, we're firing the best government Sweden has ever seen, and it's rumored that Anders Borg will be gone aswell, another huge mistake.

EDIT: Okej. Som sagt, uppenbarligen håller vi inte åt samma håll så vi lär se saker väldigt olika. Vad tycker du om VVV? 

[GRANDMOM]

Aah good the debt, yes letsstart off there then shall we. Statsskulden, is today about 1250 billion. It has been payed off some during the last 8 years - yes. How? Well during the last 8 years they sold a long list of companies owned by the state worth a total 160 billion - those were used to lower the debt and pay for the taxcuts. If they hadnt, the debt would have risen up to somewhere around 1450 billion. Taxes will now need to be raised, with about 100 billions according to experts and the konjunkturinstitutet - to cover the neglected areas during he last 8 years.

What exactly did they do to "handle" the crisis?


Vvv - jag har dem alla (eller en kia sportage istället för volvon ;)

[Torben]

 hehe

[Bittersteel]

It's still six percent that we have alot to thank for, I'm not gonna lie, I'm afraid of the new taxes.

How am I supposed to know what they did? As far as I know, they haven't gone out with it, sadly. But if we took ourselfes out of it so well, compared to the rest of the world we surely have Fredrik and Anders to thank for.

Anyways, I'm not here to argue. Sort of. Kinda. Shoot me a PM and I'll answer it when I get back on later tonight.

[BASNAK]

It's still six percent that we have alot to thank for, I'm not gonna lie, I'm afraid of the new taxes.

How am I supposed to know what they did? As far as I know, they haven't gone out with it, sadly. But if we took ourselfes out of it so well, compared to the rest of the world we surely have Fredrik and Anders to thank for.

Anyways, I'm not here to argue. Sort of. Kinda. Shoot me a PM and I'll answer it when I get back on later tonight.

You know, they're not jumping back straight to pre 2006 taxes the day after the election. Some of the tax cuts will still be intact, and it will take time to implement the new tax reforms. And why are you afraid of the new taxes?

[Bittersteel]

You know, they're not jumping back straight to pre 2006 taxes the day after the election. Some of the tax cuts will still be intact, and it will take time to implement the new tax reforms. And why are you afraid of the new taxes?

I know that very well.  Personal reasons. And like I said, they're not gonna go trough, in worst/best case, there will be a new election. They refuse to cooperate with SD. Meanhile KD and C will obviously refuse to work with them aswell.

[BASNAK]

I know that very well.  Personal reasons. And like I said, they're not gonna go trough, in worst/best case, there will be a new election. They refuse to cooperate with SD. Meanhile KD and C will obviously refuse to work with them aswell.

One of the biggest issues I had with the Alliance was how they're slowly progressing the universities towards privatization and want to dissolve CSN and replace it with independent banks. One of the things that makes Sweden one of the best countries to live in the World is because our education is free and you can get any job you want no matter financial background. In the UK where universities used to be free like in Sweden, it was recently changed by their right-wing party so you have to pay hundreds of thousands swedish crowns to get a proper education.

Imagine if I had to pay 30k sek for every course I study in University (which is the price of the courses I study for non EU-students) + tuition. That would force people to either take even larger student loans than we already are and live the rest of our lives in huge debt, or simply not get an education and become a education-free scrub that will easily be replaced by machines in the next decades with the current technological advancement. Unless you're lucky enough to be born in a rich family.

This isn't something they're primarily pushing but they sure are leaning towards a future like this. Wasn't many months ago they made a change in the direction of privatization and then the students freaked out and protested.