Test on Shield and Polearms

[The_Bloody_Nine]

I am sorry for this post, which might seem as trolling. Please do not regard it as such, but merely a wish to offer some constructive critisism.

Vicious, if in any way possible please do edit the formatting of your posts in a way that is native to this forum.
Your opinion might be right, it might be wrong, but reading it in the way it is currently formatted is a pain in the ass.

In order to truly value and judge your opinions and not my perceived image of you as a person through your formatting,
please do something about it!

Concerning the subject.
I have no clue!

Please listen to this man and many will take you more serious!

[Diavolo]

I agree that shields should break a bit easier from normal weapons, but that they should be able to withstand atleast 50 arrows. Hitting a shield with a dagger should do more damage to it than an arrrow. However, throwing weapons should be able to destroy shields like a melee weapon. (atleast the axes)

[Tzar]

polearms are fine weapons but the polearm stun is just lame on weapons like LHB and BEC its just a chain of lol stuns gets old fast...

about the anti shield options 2h have morningstar axes and what not so i dont see a huge problem there unless u have a hard time letting go of your german greatsword fx.

EDIT: should´nt this be in the balance forum??

[Barbas]

People have been endlessly whining about this or that being 'OP' for as long as cRPG has been around. 

If the game isn't balanced by now, even with all of the incessant tweaking over the course of its existence, it never will be.

Maybe it's just time to accept that.  There's far less risk of losing players over 'balance' issues than there is over the boredom that arises due to lack of new game features.  I'd much rather see new things being added to cRPG than I would yet more tweaking.

[Cyclopsided]

Yeah? So, a super high shield skill with the most resilient shield in the game can hold off regular weapons from breaking it for a very long time? Sounds right.
An axe with a bonus to shield, specifically meant to counter shields and break them: It breaks the most resilient shield in 5-6 hits. Sounds right.

pole stun is hardcoded, can't change until WSE implementation.

Did I miss anything? Looks like there isn't an issue here to me...

[rustyspoon]

Yeah? So, a super high shield skill with the most resilient shield in the game can hold off regular weapons from breaking it for a very long time? Sounds right.
An axe with a bonus to shield, specifically meant to counter shields and break them: It breaks the most resilient shield in 5-6 hits. Sounds right.

pole stun is hardcoded, can't change until WSE implementation.

Did I miss anything? Looks like there isn't an issue here to me...

Word. +1

[Mala]

Hmm, why do a shield break and a wooden shaft last forever?
Ooooh, i have an idea for a new feature, weapon cracking. After, let´s just say, 10 - 12 parries against a shieldbreaking weapon, your weapon breaks and has only 2/3 of its original lenght left.
Sounds fair to me.

[BD_Guard_Bane]

about the anti shield options 2h have morningstar axes and what not so i dont see a huge problem there unless u have a hard time letting go of your german greatsword fx.

All the 2hand shieldbreakers (except fighting axe in 2hand mode) are unbalanced. Makes them quite hard to use against the faster 1handers.

[rustyspoon]

All the 2hand shieldbreakers (except fighting axe in 2hand mode) are unbalanced. Makes them quite hard to use against the faster 1handers.

If you're using it to break shields, why would you need to feint anyway? Regardless, it's still a lot easier to kill the guy behind the shield than the shield itself.

[Cyclopsided]

If you're using it to break shields, why would you need to feint anyway? Regardless, it's still a lot easier to kill the guy behind the shield than the shield itself.

Unbalanced weapons do very fluid and faster feints when timed correctly, including a delay feint timing that can allow you to swing your weapon straight through the enemy as if it were a swing, only to do an instant swing from the other side. It is pretty crazy.
unbalanced weapons can't do a few types of feints, but that is it.

[Sayton]

Yeah? So, a super high shield skill with the most resilient shield in the game can hold off regular weapons from breaking it for a very long time? Sounds right.
An axe with a bonus to shield, specifically meant to counter shields and break them: It breaks the most resilient shield in 5-6 hits. Sounds right.

pole stun is hardcoded, can't change until WSE implementation.

Did I miss anything? Looks like there isn't an issue here to me...

I think you summed it up rather nicely. 

[BD_Guard_Bane]

unbalanced weapons can't do a few types of feints, but that is it.

Unbalanced doesn't just affect feints.

[Leesin]

Hmm, why do a shield break and a wooden shaft last forever?
Ooooh, i have an idea for a new feature, weapon cracking. After, let´s just say, 10 - 12 parries against a shieldbreaking weapon, your weapon breaks and has only 2/3 of its original lenght left.
Sounds fair to me.

Because shields breaking in game makes sense, it keeps the game flowing, shields give you a good advantage whilst they last. Weapons breaking would just be retarded and just means everyone uses shield breaking weapons and everyone ends up weaponless, or just running away from fights. My main uses 1h + Shield ( Strategus build ) and I do just fine, I avoid getting into direct confrontation with axes unless I have no choice, even then I could just put my shield on my back and block with my sword.

[Shinimas]

Unbalanced weapons do very fluid and faster feints when timed correctly, including a delay feint timing that can allow you to swing your weapon straight through the enemy as if it were a swing, only to do an instant swing from the other side. It is pretty crazy.
unbalanced weapons can't do a few types of feints, but that is it.

I thought weird animations like intant swings or diagonal swings etc. are only client side and your enemy sees normal feints and strikes all the time.

[M_Pully]

Hmm, why do a shield break and a wooden shaft last forever?
Ooooh, i have an idea for a new feature, weapon cracking. After, let´s just say, 10 - 12 parries against a shieldbreaking weapon, your weapon breaks and has only 2/3 of its original lenght left.
Sounds fair to me.

http://youtu.be/uU70_sMi9hA?t=23s ^.^