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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2014, 11:42:27 am »
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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #61 on: October 09, 2014, 10:58:08 pm »
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Mundy - I have been somewhat dealing with the same problem.  I played dtv all the time in order to get to 30s (and still do), hoping it will make a difference once i got there, but I still get whomped in battle or siege.  I am not horrible at blocking but not great either, which as you know is definitely key to survival, and i can use improvement.  What the majority of ppl here are saying about practice practice practice and duel duel duel is true.. and i can say i am improving very slowly given the free time i have available.  I know some might think this is wrong, but i've practiced using the wooden sword and medium armor, with a friend (both of us new to c-rpg)and within about 45 minutes to an hour he and i were both able to block basic attacks about 95% of the time and block some feinting against each other.  I believe this was the most efficient 45 minutes to an hour of c-rpg gameplay i have experienced.  Correct me if i am wrong but i figured obviously because there is less down time, and more non-stop practice because you live longer and spar longer before being interupted by dying and the routine of finding each other again after spawning.  I was then able to duel against other players who were better than me, and survive about 3x longer than i used to before dying and able to block about 80% of their tricky attacks, feints and footwork.

Anyhow, i've tried offering training duels with the pro players using wooden weapons, but nobody is ever up for it.. they just want to win by killing you in two hits with their warcleavers or long axes, which will not help you improve much.  So if you are looking to get with someone and practice, let me know because i can use it too.   I see you online from time to time in dtv, so next time we cross paths i'll hit you up if you want to practice.

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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2014, 04:35:20 pm »
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Hey guys I also have a problem with combat. Im playing this game for few days now and i LOVE it so far. My question is: IS there anyone willing to teach me, show me how to fight on 1v1 server? I could join your teamspeak or whatever you have there :)

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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2014, 04:56:55 pm »
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Hang out on duel server and kindly ask someone to teach you! :)

Or ask in battle, siege if anyone are up.
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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #64 on: October 10, 2014, 11:34:17 pm »
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Hey guys I also have a problem with combat. Im playing this game for few days now and i LOVE it so far. My question is: IS there anyone willing to teach me, show me how to fight on 1v1 server? I could join your teamspeak or whatever you have there :)

call me baby

ill teach you the basics

pls

im so lonely

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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2014, 12:08:09 am »
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call me baby

ill teach you the basics

pls

im so lonely

Did you mean it about helping me with the basics or you just joking around? If you are up for it tell me when and where, thanks for helping out.

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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2014, 12:03:09 pm »
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Are you from EU or NA?
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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2014, 02:30:00 pm »
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Guys, I'm terrible at PvP melee combat. Absolutely awful. I'm Gen 2, about to be Gen 3, and I'm still just so bad at melee that it's comical. I'm a decent shot, and in DTV melee I can hold my own, but against other players it's just pitiful. Like, I can take my level 30 2H build against an archer with some crappy sword and no PS and consistently lose. I'm not sure why I'm so awful - I'm pretty decent at similar games, like War of the Vikings and War of the Roses. I'm even okay at vanilla, though not great. But for some reason, I just don't seem to get PvP melee in cRPG.

I'm probably going back to ranged weaponry of some sort next gen, but I really do want to get better at melee so I can participate in that half of the game. Anyone have any suggestions for someone who's absolutely horrible?

Hey, man.

You're not horrible, you're just new.

All of us old farts who used to play this game for many hours a day are mostly gone, but the newer generation of pure cRPG geeks have pretty much caught up to us, and in my case surpassed us.

You're just really green, man. You're not horrible. Imagine jumping into a boxing match with Mike Tyson after sparring with your mother for 3 times.

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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2014, 05:36:42 pm »
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Are you from EU or NA?

EU but im staying very late so i guess besides the ping it does not matter

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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2014, 09:11:27 pm »
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EU but im staying very late so i guess besides the ping it does not matter
I can help you with some training if you want,just say hello to me when you see me on a server(eu1 or eu2,mostly)
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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #70 on: October 13, 2014, 08:51:15 pm »
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Duel server is much more effective for improving if you have a friend to coach you. That server is populated with the tryhardiest tryhards in all of cRPG, and many of them would roflfeintspinlolstabkick a newbie to death without ever helping them get better. Plenty of players that top scoreboard on Battle and Siege get their face stomped on duel, so it's not a good place to build one's confidence without someone actually trying to help you.

You will get better even if the guy stomps you every single time.
No matter who you fight duel server is the best way to get decent.
I spent hours at that server until i could block a bit and i spent a lot and lot more back when i was a bit better :P

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Re: I'm terrible at PvP melee combat
« Reply #71 on: October 13, 2014, 09:06:07 pm »
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Duel will help with basic reflex stuff from muscle memory, but chances are a lot of the techniques you'll pick up for 1v1 aren't applicable for fighting multiple people (rofl pole feint copter is one of them) or with a team against one opponent. Duels are pretty good for getting an overview of blatant warband/wse exploits interesting game mechanics that people put to their advantage.

I guess the idea of flanking isn't all that complicated (though a lot of people don't do it anyway), but some practice may be needed to wobble your attacks around your teammate to hit the enemy.

The only practical way to get better vs multiple opponents while alone is to actually play in the battle/siege servers. Bots in DTV are too dumb, and they blatantly cheat with melee friendly fire behavior. A lot of strategy in 1 vs many involves positioning yourself/enemies so that as few as possible are able to attack you + as many as possible who are able to attack you risk smacking their teammate if you suddenly move in another direction.