Hit-Girl

[Xant]

You're assuming that everything is completely under control and predictable when a small child is under adult supervision, as if the adult has these magical powers that prevent the child from doing anything an adult wouldn't. As if their smaller stature, inability to control emotions, general lack of understanding what consequences are, and short attention span mean is suddenly a non-factor just because there is this thing called "proper adult supervision." Have you ever spent a significant amount of time with small children in a supervisory role? I'm guessing no.

Unless you're suggesting a small child can overpower a grown man, I don't see how any of that is relevant.

[Umbra]

Being under adult supervision means everything even if it's a 9 year old with her finger on the trigger. Do you even know how firearms work? It's completely safe if the supervision and instruction is done properly.

I wouldnt go as far as to say that it is completely safe. It would be reasonably safe under certain conditions.

You dont need a full-auto weapon to teach gun resposiblity so i assume that you mean a low recoil semi-auto handgun. Then again why would someone take, in this case, a 9 year old to the range to shoot?

[AntiBlitz]

You dont need a full-auto weapon to teach gun resposiblity so i assume that you mean a low recoil semi-auto handgun. Then again why would someone take, in this case, a 9 year old to the range to shoot?

who cares, i dont see how that should be part of the discussion.

[Umbra]

Well yea, i would rather teach a 9 year old not to touch guns at all

[AntiBlitz]

Well yea, i would rather teach a 9 year old not to touch guns at all

thats opinion, i would teach them.

A child at that age knows right from wrong, can determine what is "bad", and what can harm themselves and others.  Its like the old dont touch the stove stuff, the child knows what will harm them, and they wont touch it, because they know.  Its the same with these, this is nothing more then a freak accident.  Shit happens, sorry the guy lost his life, but this isnt some sort of toddler with a firearm.  It was a instructed session that went bad.

[Xant]

You dont need a full-auto weapon to teach gun resposiblity so i assume that you mean a low recoil semi-auto handgun. Then again why would someone take, in this case, a 9 year old to the range to shoot?

You don't need full auto, no. And why not take a 9 year old to the range to shoot? It's an activity the same as any other. I shot pistols when I was younger than 9, and not at a range either.

[Umbra]

Guess im just not rural or finnish enough 

[Swaggart]

Unless you're suggesting a small child can overpower a grown man, I don't see how any of that is relevant.

What does this have to do with anything? Are you saying that proper adult supervision for a small child shooting a gun means having to physically control the child?

[Xant]

What does this have to do with anything? Are you saying that proper adult supervision for a small child shooting a gun means having to physically control the child?

Obviously you want to be close enough to physically control the child, especially if you're doing it as your job and you don't personally know them.

[Clockworkkiller]

clockwork, i know you live in Maryland, if you need instruction on purchasing a assault rifle, let me know, i can guide you through the steps since Maryland went full retard after the last school shooting propaganda.  Unfortunately, loop holes exist and purchasing assault rifles is still just about the same as before, luckily for me, im "grandfathered" in, and therefore the assault weapons i have, remain mine, even though the laws on them have changed.

Honestly, a better analogy would be alcohol laws in Europe vs Teen drinking in the U.S.  The different cultures give different views, and have their own issues due to them.

marylands turning to shit, had plans to buy a SKS when i reached legal age, (ill be 18 in 2 months) but cant anymore. but luckily my grandad apparently snagged a DPMS stripped lower. we're in the midst of building a AR out of it. Although the only way id be able own it is when he passes away and i inherit it.

Also planning to move out and live in a more pro-2nd state, where id be able to obtain a CC easily (but all that's long term plans)

[Turkhammer]

The man was sacrificed for the glory of the 2nd Amendment! Hail!

Nonsensical comment.  The 2nd Amendment doesn't say you must give firearms to children.  Try to focus.

[Leshma]

It would be awesome if Xant and AntiBlitz back up their claims with youtube video. Find a 9 year old, give him/her automatic gun/rifle, instruct them and tell them to fire. Record the video. If everything goes wrong, you'll prove your point. If everything goes as it should, ya know... it's a win-win situation either way.

[Xant]

It would be awesome if Xant and AntiBlitz back up their claims with youtube video. Find a 9 year old, give him/her automatic gun/rifle, instruct them and tell them to fire. Record the video. If everything goes wrong, you'll prove your point. If everything goes as it should, ya know... it's a win-win situation either way.

So you don't understand English is what you're trying to say? Or is it language in general? Your autism doesn't give you the powers of concentration? That's a shame. What you're saying has no relevance to anything I've said.

[pepejul]

How exactly is it a crime? Teaching your kids how to handle guns at a young age is the best way to have them treat firearms with respect and care when they're older too.

I hope you will never have children.....

[Swaggart]

Obviously you want to be close enough to physically control the child, especially if you're doing it as your job and you don't personally know them.

This is the part I don't understand. If the child is not able to properly fire the gun alone then it has no business firing one. There is no educational value in this. I started shooting younger than she did but it was with an air rifle, not a fucking Uzi. Although now that I think about it I have to go thank my parents for not letting me fire a submachine gun on full auto at age 9, unlike those two idiots who have succeeded in destroying their daughter's childhood.