GG. $100.000

[IR_Kuoin]

Yeah cuz you can only be a massive "classic-nerd" to be a pro gamer ...

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[Shemaforash]

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If you want to use anyone as an example you should use HeatoN

If you want a bad example use JW....

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[Prinz_Karl]

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Come on, ofcourse there will be some handsome looking gamers with six pack. But let's pick on stereotypes and be fair that most of them gamers look like that guy               |

Also why is it called e-sport ? Should be called anti-sport lol.

[Shemaforash]

because it's a sport, huh?

[Butan]

Obviously, e-sport promotes people with poor physic since they dont have to flex anything but their brain and their fingers.
Its like criticizing marathon men because it promotes people with a very slim physique, or weight lifters to be big.

You are what you do and people who invest 100% of their time in video games will look pale and weak, they dont need to be muscular and tanned to win video games tournament, as people doing physical activities dont need to be smart to win their contests. It still doesnt mean that they have to be pale and weak, since you can do other things in your past time, or that all sportmen are dumb 

If you focus on their center of interest and their skill at it, those guys won because they are the best in their game, and thats what sport is all about: competing with other like-minded people and striving to be  n°1 in what you do.

GG NiP

[IR_Kuoin]

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Come on, ofcourse there will be some handsome looking gamers with six pack. But let's pick on stereotypes and be fair that most of them gamers look like that guy               |

Also why is it called e-sport ? Should be called anti-sport lol.

So it can only be a sport if you do heavy physical activities ? So chess and other activities where they have huge tournaments is not a sport since you just move your fingers and you actually have to think instead of doing the classic "sport" and run and jump.

[Prinz_Karl]

@Butan/Kuoin I agree on your points with competeting stuff Butan, only thing bothering me is that while you're good at gaming it most probably comes with decline of physical or social ability. You don't have that kind of decline in other brain sport games like chess. There are few e-sport games where you have to make very deep tactical or strategy decisions in order to have success. For me that's no real brain sport, but just exhausting brain functions you already learned. I would compare it sport-wise to chess if you always had to renew your tactical/strategical thinking, but to me it only seems as if the things that matter are reaction time, having a good equipment and making mostly tactical approaches with lack of strategic thinking. That's my opinion.

[Gravoth_iii]

@Butan/Kuoin I agree on your points with competeting stuff Butan, only thing bothering me is that while you're good at gaming it most probably comes with decline of physical or social ability. You don't have that kind of decline in other brain sport games like chess. There are few e-sport games where you have to make very deep tactical or strategy decisions in order to have success. For me that's no real brain sport, but just exhausting brain functions you already learned. I would compare it sport-wise to chess if you always had to renew your tactical/strategical thinking, but to me it only seems as if the things that matter are reaction time, having a good equipment and making mostly tactical approaches with lack of strategic thinking. That's my opinion.

Damn you really care for people. I dont give a shiet what they do with their spare time, all i care about is them giving a good show by playing well. Decline of physical and social ability is their choice so whatever.

[Butan]

I think we should create a new thread soon 

Anyway Karl, I agree that using computers too much induce a physical decline. On the social ability decline I also agree, but to a point: chatting using keyboard/micro/forums still improve communication skill, and photo/video based tools social awareness. Where I strongly disagree is about the intellectual decline. Video games are games, and games teach us a lot of things (of course depending on the type of game), I believe I've learnt more from video games than books, than school.

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That may be because I spend too much time playing video game than reading books and I quit school, but afaik its still a good argument! 

As Gravoth said, if you just dont selfishly care about individual people and just enjoy what they can give you (in this case, a spectacle), its fairly reasonable to say that those guys mechanically/naturally deserved to be where they are and doing so gave you something to see! Or not, if you're not interested.

[IR_Kuoin]

E-sport in general is much as a competition like normal sport as it is entertaining for the masses. I personally find watching an e-sport tournament way more exiting than a 100 meter sprint etc.

[Prinz_Karl]

Video games are games, and games teach us a lot of things (of course depending on the type of game), I believe I've learnt more from video games than books, than school.

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That may be because I spend too much time playing video game than reading books and I quit school, but afaik its still a good argument! 

Can't agree on that . Definitely there's few learning components in video games but imo no way does it compare with any official learning faculty. I also don't think it applies to you.

On the e-sport stuff let's agree that there's arguments speaking for/against the sport term

[Shemaforash]

What are the arguments against? Simply because it's an old fashioned thinking?

[Vovka]

There is always that one fat guy in every Swedish E-sport team.

in case their plane fall in the mountains 

[djavo]

in case their plane fall in the mountains 

SO you shot that plane in Ukraine?

OT: Raise your children as pro gamers they already make more money then "most sports". If they fail you can always send them in army.