POST OF HATE

[STR_aD_Sargon_eqv]

If you hate them that much, just find a way to annoy them as much they annoy you.

If you hate archers do a 9/27 build with light lance, shield and knockdown mace, you just have to run ( dont even try to kill other targets, focus on archers ) and when you find an archer, wait behind him, he will have to always look on his back, and when he is trying to kill you in melee, fall back, wait for an other infantry to come and gank him.

If you hate 1h cavs, hoplite is the way to go, wait at your spawn with peasant gear and a decent pokey weapon ( military fork do the job really well ) and feint being afk, they will come for you 30 sec after you spawned, when he get close enough, make a 360 and rear his horse, with the fork you will have enough time to kill the horse ( or rear it again if its heavy horse ). After you dismounted him, leave him and go find an other cav.

I dont have solutions about HA, Smurf Niluk is muted on the forum, so if there is no admins on, maybe you can poll Ban him, he wont be able to make a ban thread  Or wait for Thomek

so typical for eu.
instead of solve the problem u tryin to create a new problem witch could a bit solve the first one, but will led to more problem...

[korppis]

so typical for eu.
instead of solve the problem u tryin to create a new problem witch could a bit solve the first one, but will led to more problem...

That's how eu works. If your toe hurts, bang your head against the wall untill you don't notice the pain on your toe... problem solved.

[Renay]

That's how eu works. If your toe hurts, bang your head against the wall untill you don't notice the pain on your toe... problem solved.

Yep, we deal with problems the manly way.

[Tibe]

That's how eu works. If your toe hurts, bang your head against the wall untill you don't notice the pain on your toe... problem solved.

Beats the na way of taking a gun and shooting it off.

[Torben]

During pre Upkeep and Slotnerf crpg,  I always carried an Arbalest with me.  Any horse archer would take a hike when I pulled out that baby on my courser : )

(except jackie ofc)

[Nightingale]

Grab an arbalest, happy hunting!

Unfortunately this wouldn't do anything. You will only get 1 shot then never get to reload. Your best bet is probably hunting xbow or generic crossbow - much faster reload still decent damage. your chance of getting to reload is much higher and you can move much faster too.

[Leesin]

You can't complain about the class balance when there is 10 people on the server, the ratios don't work like that when the population is much higher.

But what's wrong in the long run with people complaining about HA's is that most foot archers are looking for easy targets, i.e shieldless infantry, where as the decent archers will keep an eye out for the Horse Archers at all times and make them a priority target. Believe me when I played HA I noticed who were the real good archers far more often than when I played Infantry, they could really fuck up my day and push me away from large areas unless I really wanted to risk losing my horse or dying just to fight 1 archer.

The other problem is that it seems at least half of the team wants to just run straight out in the open, which means as an archer you either follow to protect them or you use terrain smartly so you can get the upper hand on enemy cavalry/HA, it's just that then all your stupid team mates die in the middle of the field and bitch in chat about HA's and 1h cavs.

[Grumbs]

Problem is HA > than foot archer and foot xbow. Even if an archer is good he is statistically worse off than a HA of similar skill

The whole game is flawed with ranged though. Only counters to ranged is more ranged and now with HA/HX's we need to have even more ranged. I blame Tydeus

[San]

Other than nerfing horse speed into the ground for horse ranged or removing it, the only way is to have some type of stun resistance against ranged against up to X damage based on your armor+IF or something. I see many other potential problems with that, though.

[Leesin]

It's probably one of the most difficult balances to solve mainly because it is so sensitive and the issues are amplified by the maps themselves as well as the huge lack of team work you often witness. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it, I quit playing HA to 1h shield and now to polearms, I am feeling the HA burn, but I deal with it, I play smarter, I use terrain better, I stick with ranged to protect them from 1h/Lancer cav whilst they shoot at harassing HA's. As annoying as HA's can be I would never want them removed, they are a unique part of this game just like the combat system, even when they're pwning me and I can't do anything about it.

[Andswaru]

Horse xbow is preety much the most useless class, its just pure troll nothing more, except for hunting horses then its awesome. Also as a str leaning build I laugh at HA and their weak missile damage, i lose about 1/20 of my health when smurf_niik hits me using scale gauntlets and a mailshirt. Thats just a trade off I make, I tank small arms fire instead of been able to breakdance like a Micheal Jackson clone as you agility whores do. Take more strength. Tydeus and co did a great job giving us all the ability too rear horses now with any 2handed/polearm pierce weapon (best change ever imo) so dont blame them. Unless your getting more than 6 HA on a team I dont consider the problem to be a problem. Flags will still let you win.

[Man of Steel]

The Problem is they need just 3 fucking arrows to kill my horse

[Macropus]

The Problem is they need just 3 fucking arrows to kill my horse

only if one of them hit the head.

[Grumbs]

HA/HX balance is easy. Make more bows not usable with horse and the ones that are should have worse stats. Who uses Short bow? Make it a HA bow

[Macropus]

Really all that should be done for nerfing HAs is nerfing yumi or making it unusable on horseback.