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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2014, 06:36:17 pm »
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btw this dude is pretty famous. imo for now he is the best candidate for being crpg item manager.
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2014, 09:40:49 pm »
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They're looking even better now. Great stuff.

Thanks and good job on the balancing so far guys, appreciate it. is better than the last time i played

Please make the skirt black as well, and the green arm part either grey, red or blue (these are the colors that fit well with black elements). If you can darken the mail texture, it would be even better.

Sure, ill post it in a sec

Its done, please let me know what you think, honest opinion would be best  :wink::
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btw this dude is pretty famous. imo for now he is the best candidate for being crpg item manager.

How can someone apply as a item manager? I am rather interested in cRPG MS files since it sounds alot more different than just python coding.
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2014, 01:44:41 am »
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We need 3 things:

1- More Plate armors (the ones you posted are fantastic)

2- More Recolors of different armors (blue, red, green, and maybe yellow)

3- A NEW ITEM MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THE PREVIOUS 2

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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2014, 01:53:07 am »
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http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/%28applications%29-item-manager/

The thread is dead, so it's probably easier to pm a dev or go on irc. From what I know, you need to be experienced, have high standards, and must be willing to bring models up to standards compared to other new items. I believe it can be quite time intensive, possibly too much for an active individual's free time.

The item sheet is a google doc that other python files read data from.

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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2014, 08:43:01 am »
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We need 3 things:

1- More Plate armors (the ones you posted are fantastic)

2- More Recolors of different armors (blue, red, green, and maybe yellow)

3- A NEW ITEM MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THE PREVIOUS 2

A couple of mods recently went OSP, it shouldn't be hard to implement new plate armors, but what happened to zagibu, i heard he was the current Item manager, is there a chance that will he come back later?


http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/%28applications%29-item-manager/

The thread is dead, so it's probably easier to pm a dev or go on irc. From what I know, you need to be experienced, have high standards, and must be willing to bring models up to standards compared to other new items. I believe it can be quite time intensive, possibly too much for an active individual's free time.

The item sheet is a google doc that other python files read data from.

Alright and yes, texturing and modelling can be time consuming indeed, but it is rather interesting since you can learn things from it. San is there any chance i can take a look in the google doc sheet or i have to be part of the item team first? and who should i talk to on irc?

if it is things that can be done by zagibu i believe a modder like me can do the job as well. Originally i thought Zimke Zlovoljni would be the best candidate for this job since he is part of MBG team but ok.
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2014, 09:23:11 am »
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2014, 12:28:48 pm »
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Thanks and good job on the balancing so far guys, appreciate it. is better than the last time i played
Its done, please let me know what you think, honest opinion would be best  :wink::
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Wow, keep up the good work!

Good job, it looks much better now :D I hope you think the same way :P

Since you are open to suggestions, I want to make some more :wink:
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2014, 01:20:44 pm »
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Starting with the Black Tunic, I think it looks odd that the belt, arms, legs, and collar are black as well. All the other tunics have a brown belt, arms and legs in a different shade of greyish brown, and a bit of white cloth you can see at the collar. I suggest that the Black Tunic, just like all the other tunics, differ solely in the color of the main body part, but have the same arm, belt, leg and collar color.



Similarly, the Black Gambeson would look better in my opinion if you took the model of the Blue Gambeson and only changed the padded armor part. Belt, collar, skirt, and arm protection should stay brown. The legs should stay greyish-brown.

I can explain why the best way if you compare the Gambeson and the Red Gambeson. The Gambeson itself is a multicolored model; it has the white padded armor, the green skirt, the brown belt, collar and arm protection, and the greyish-brown legs. If the whole thing would be mono-colored white, it would look mildly interesting. For the same reason, the Red Gambeson kept the green skirt and the brown parts.

The Blue Gambeson is the same as the Red Gambeson and the default Gambeson, apart from the Blue Armor part and the brown instead of green skirt. The designer of the Blue Gambeson seems to share the common opinion that green and blue do not look well together (there are exceptions, but this aversion to combine blue and green is shared by the wide majority of people). Therefore, the skirt is brown. He could have made it blue, but that would look boring, so he made it brown instead.

So please keep the Black Gambeson multicolored and include the brown elements! (Just like blue and green, I would not combine black and dark green, and since lime green is not very medieval, we should stick to brown).

If you want another explanation: The Black Lamellar Vest is not entirely black. It has brown leather elements and a grey collar. If it was mono-colored black, it would look boring. If you want, you can test it and make the Black Lamellar Vest mono-colored black and verify that it looks less interesting than a multicolored Black Lamellar Vest.

I addition, mono-colored items allow less combinations with other items. For example, if the Steppe Armor was mono-colored green, brown shoes would look odd on it. The only leg armor you could use with it would be Green Hose with Kneecops. Since there is an issue with the models (not the textures), and the Green Hose with Kneecops looks "cut off" unless it is combined with the right items (Steppe Armor is not one of them), there would not be any leg armor at all to combine with Steppe Armor. Fortunately, it is not mono-colored, but has brown elements with a slight tendency into red, so it looks good with Woolen Hose and Rus Cavalry Boots, for example.



The Black Steppe Armor texture suffers a bit for the same reasons described above: It is entirely mono-colored and a bit boring. It fits well into a black-and-white movie, but not into a multicolored game. If you agree with me or at least find it worth to check the idea, please upload an image of the Steppe Armor with only its green elements made black. If you wish, you can slightly darken the arm wrappings to make them grey instead of creme white, but please don't overdo it.



Black Brigandine over Aketon looks terrible because of the Purple and Green Hose elements. I do not like the purple and green legs with the red, green and blue version either, but at least it is not pure eye-cancer like in the black version. Please make the legs in some neutral creme white or grey, and a corresponding version of Purple and Green Hose in this color, and then, there will be a bit of hope left for Black Brigandine over Aketon. Another issue with the current picture is that the belt and the fasteners are metallic-silver. It makes no sense for these to be made of steel, so they must have some leather color instead (brown, brown/red, bleached leather, blackened leather, or maybe creme-colored hide).

As for the Black Brigandine over Mail, make sure not to darken the Kneecops because then, we would need darkened kneecops of the same shade on the leg armor as well, and I am not sure if the Black Hose with Kneecops fulfills it. But it is hard to see on the pictures only, so nevermind if I am wrong =)



Brown and Black Rus Cavarly Boots: For safety reasons, change only the boots themselves and leave the trousers as they are, so they remain combinable with other armors.



Bronze Knight and Black Knight Set: Here is no issue at all. Since the original models are mono-colored, a mono-colored color swap does not hurt them at all. However, as mentioned, most of the other models are multicolored and need fine adjustment of each element separately, or some elements should better remain in the current color.



You definitely bring all the technical skills needed for an item manager, but we have to work on your design decisions a little =p Since you are very reactive to feedback, this shouldn't be any issue though. Thanks for this thread :D There is a lot of awesome stuff, and after some fine-tuning, I think all of the items qualify to be included to the mod. The council will make the decision, and we need an item manager of course (which won't be a problem if you will be our item manager).

I'll comment on the other items you presented if I feel like it later and if my suggestions were of any use for you, it's you who implements them or not, after all :mrgreen:

Edit: typo
« Last Edit: August 21, 2014, 01:28:21 pm by Panuru »
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2014, 02:30:49 pm »
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Perhaps update the black brig over mail image in OP?

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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2014, 08:40:34 pm »
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We need the black stuff. Anything other than adding this right now would be racist.
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/16/2014
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2014, 02:40:12 pm »
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Very useful feedback here, did everything you requested as followed, if i miss anything let me know.

Steppe Armor v2:
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Rus Boots v2:
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Black Tunic:
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Black Gambeson:

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Perhaps update the black brig over mail image in OP?

yea sorry about that, updated now.


New update:
16th Century Plate:
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As for topic update there will be new items posting here soon
« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 03:06:10 pm by AlexTheDragon »

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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/24/2014
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2014, 07:01:16 pm »
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Good God yes yes yes yes

Love them :oops:

Please add would loom :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/24/2014
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2014, 07:09:16 pm »
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I think we found zagibu`s replacement  :oops:
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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/24/2014
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2014, 07:36:47 pm »
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Do you feel like updating the Black Leather Jerkin? :P Would like to add some red elements, as in this sketch:

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Re: My collection of stuff for cRPG. Updated 8/24/2014
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2014, 08:06:13 pm »
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Do you feel like updating the Black Leather Jerkin? :P Would like to add some red elements, as in this sketch:

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Sorry for terrible quality, it's handdrawn :(

Here you go Panuru :

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I think the red one might look a bit weird am i wrong?
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