New PC build

[Alec]

So for the real computer guys here who know more than I do  I'm planning on getting a new build. It's supposed to be a base so i can build further on it in the future. I want it to run games on 3 144mhz monitors with atleast 60fps (displayport). My budget is 3100€ max. Are there any recommendations to make it cheaper, but better performing? I prefere reliable brands and reliable parts over smaller but cheaper brands.
The peripheral are included in my budget. I consider OC'ing up to 4.5Ghz or even 5.0Ghz. The general usage will be gaming/programming/webdesign/a little graphical design

Full spec list:

1 Asus drw-24f1st optical drive (sata)
2 Asus GeForce GTX 770 directCu II 2GB
1 Asus Maximus VII hero
3 Asus VG248QE monitors
1 Cooler Master Storm Trooper Window
1 Corsair h100i
1 Corsair AX860i
2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Pro Red ddr3-1866 cl9
1 Intel Core i7-4790k
1 Samsung 840 Evo 120GB ssd
2 Western digital Caviar blue 1TB hdd

peripherals: (not to change)
1 Razer Mamba 4G
1 Razer Anansi
1 Razer Tiamat 2.2

[Kafein]

With that budget you could easily invest more in your SSD. With 240Gb you can put some games on it. Also a bigger SSD means you can use some of the space to increase its performance and lifetime. I don't know much about multi-screen setups so I can't really help you there.

[Alec]

I want to use the ssd only for my dual OS, that's why i chose for a dual hdd

[Tore]

>3 144mhz monitors with atleast 60fps

lol

[Senni__Ti]

I take it you meant 144Hz monitors?

Btw 4.5Ghz is a really good OC on the 4790K, 5GHz is pretty unachievable.

Not too great on triple monitor setups myself, but you would need cards with a large amount of GDDR5.
The 770 does come in 4gb models, the 780(Ti) is an option with 3gb and R9 290(X) with 4gb per card.

Either way it's going to be costly.

Tbh I'd get fewer screens, lower Hz with a greater resolution with that budget.
Fully watercooled setup.

[Joseph Porta]

Looks like you could fly to the moon with that rig 

[Alec]

I take it you meant 144Hz monitors?

Btw 4.5Ghz is a really good OC on the 4790K, 5GHz is pretty unachievable.

Not too great on triple monitor setups myself, but you would need cards with a large amount of GDDR5.
The 770 does come in 4gb models, the 780(Ti) is an option with 3gb and R9 290(X) with 4gb per card.

Either way it's going to be costly.

Tbh I'd get fewer screens, lower Hz with a greater resolution with that budget.
Fully watercooled setup.

144Hz my bad ;)
With the GPU's do you mean a single 770 4GB or 780Ti 3GB would do the job? i considered the 4GB 770's but i thought 2GB SLI 770's would be enough :S
I made a second build with a single 780ti here: http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/739250/geen_username/3000pc
I'm not familiar with custom watercooling, so if I let's say get 2 60Hz monitors on a single 780(Ti) would it be possible to watercool the cpu, gpu and chipset or ram? if so, could you suggest brands or parts?
I don't want to go with crossfire amd cards or a single version.

[Senni__Ti]

Oh almost forgot!

The DCU II cards are very very fat, you can *just* fit two on the motherboard you picked.
But I bet the bottom one will choke a bit and heat up.

I would get EVGA ACX if you are going to SLI, slimmer and not as effective (temp wise), but work better in SLI.
The reference cooler is another that works well in SLI.
You want something which sucks in from the front and shoots it out the back.

Also to elaborate on what I said before:

With 144Hz monitors, you are only going to notice a difference at >60fps.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sli_review,22.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sli_review,23.html

With 3 1080p monitors, as the article above shows, you'd be lucky to get 60 fps, let alone higher.

You either have to go insane with 3 x a high end card (probably 1-2k by themselves) and still only really be pushing 70-80 fps. (+ you'd need a extreme mobo tbh)
Or, you get 3 x 60Hz monitors and save a bundle ;).

Are you set in stone on having 3 monitors?
You could just get a 4k 30+ inch monitor, probably the same price.

As for watercooling the setup, you'd be able to have a stable high OC on your CPU e.g. 4.4GHz.
You'd be able to OC the cards to ~1.1GHz GPU, 7.5GHz effective memory
With this you'd stand a chance of 60+ fps in most games, while running nice and cool .

EDIT:

Just saw you posted .

I meant 2 x GTX 770 4gb for 3x 1080p.

A GTX 780Ti should be able to run 2x 1080p 60Hz screens fine.
Watercooling wise, it's tricky as fuck, a pretty dedicated option. If you can do it, it's amazing.
You'd watercool the CPU and GPU, nothing else really needs it.

What you've currently selected should be fine though, that's a great card, should run pretty cool (sub 70C) with the right fan settings.
The H100i is a closed loop watercooler for the CPU, so that would be very close to custom watercooling.

The screens are still 144Hz (not sure if intentional), you could run one 144Hz with this setup, but not two. (Justifiably anyway)
The SSD might be cheaper on amazon, they recently plummeted in price as the next series is due out soon. (Just picked up a 500gb one for £160, not too shabby)

Other than the keyboard, mouse and headset (seem a tad expensive, but you said no changing D:), it's one beast of a setup! (I'm jelly)

[Alec]

I'm reviewing stuff, will update soon. About the monitors, i'm just so in love with them 
I think i'll stick with the closed loop, not going custom. I was reading some forum posts and some say sli 780's can deliver enough power for triple monitors 60hz ~60fps, but i'm not sure which monitors to pick.
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Edit:

I'm pretty much set in stone for multiple monitors. I want to stream (twitch) and i need it for my studies, etc..
the 144hz is just optional,, i've played  my whole life on 60hz and i can't really notice a difference. But it seems hard to find 60hz gaming monitors (24inch) with built in speakers and displayport (i guess for 60hz hdmi will do fine though)
I might just change my mind and get only 2 monitors, in that case one of them will be a vg248qe which will be used to game on. this lowers the overall costs and i guess a 780(ti) will do perfectly fine for 1080p 60fps+ single monitor gaming and another monitor for twitch.
triple sli is too expensive, i've had a look at the 600 series, but it's not worth the money.

[Senni__Ti]

Speakers built into monitors don't tend to be that great.

You'd do better off buying speakers separately, even a 30-40 EURO speaker system would be better than built-in.

A 780 would do a single screen 1080p fine @60fps. (I have one )

780Ti is more for the higher resolutions, e.g. 1 should run 1440p single screen fair enough (not sure about 60fps, would be close though).
A friend has one OCed and watercooled, he seems to be able to run most games at ~100fps @1080p.

Might want to have a look at one of the Gsync screens, syncs the refresh rate to the fps.
I think they are up to 144Hz.
Means no screen tearing!

[Alec]

2 screens 780ti http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/739250/geen_username/3000pc-780ti-2-screens
3 screens sli 770 60hz http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/703839/geen_username/3000pc-sli-770-60hz
3 screens sli 780 144hz http://nl.hardware.info/wensenlijst/741574/geen_username/3000pc-sli-780-144hz

This is what i've come up with. High res on the 780ti upgraded storage, 60hz on the 770's upgraded storage, 144hz on the 780's

[Senni__Ti]

Seems good, but the AOC monitors seem to have a bad response time or contrast (or both, well the ones you picked anyway).

1000:1 means there won't be much difference in the blacks, so in dark images, it will be tougher to make out detail.
6ms response time isn't great, 5ms or less is ideal. (There should be plenty of 2ms ones. I have a 5ms one, it's not bad)
Also the brightness 250 cd/m² is ok, but you can't see shit in direct sunlight. (I made that mistake :/)
300 cd/m² is much better (or higher).

And the 4TB HDD seems excessive, but hey, it's up to you :p.
(I am struggling to fill my 1TB one )


EDIT:
In terms of which to pick, the 780Ti will be the slowest of the bunch to start with, as you only have one.
You should find the 27inch 1440p screen is more than enough for gaming (it'll look awesome), but you could put this in the other builds too.
But you would be able to upgrade this later on easily (shove in another 780Ti, add another screen  )
The AX760i should be able to support two 780Tis, not sure about OCing both. (it has the connectors)

WTF just saw the PSU's prices, AX860 is cheaper?! slightly lower efficiency but hey 92-94%
The AX 860 would definitely allow you to add a second 780Ti in the future.

The other Two builds would be immediately faster, the 780 SLI would be pretty unbeatable.
Again I don't think 2x 780s would be able to go that far above 60fps in 3x 1080p, so 144Hz would be a tad wasted. (not sure if the review I posted covers them?)

Also, Nvidia is reportedly releasing the 880, 870 and 860 in November. It will cause the prices of the current cards to drop quite a bit (and they'll start to disappear soon after that)

Not sure how much faster the 880 will be, as it's based on the same architecture and still 28nm. Shouldn't be much faster, not the typical 20%+.

[Alec]

yeah i know 4tb is huuuuge  maybe i switch back to wd black 1tb and get 500gb ssd
about the screens, my room is always dark(er), so not much sun which can influence my sight and hey, i can live with that 1000:1 ;)

Which of the 3 is the best in your opinion? and which is more suited for the future?

[Senni__Ti]

EDITED previous post btw

If you add another 780Ti later on, or thinking of it, get ACX instead of DCU II. (like the others)

DCU II would run a tad cooler, but the ACX is still a great card, many people's favourite.

[Alec]

Also, Nvidia is reportedly releasing the 880, 870 and 860 in November. It will cause the prices of the current cards to drop quite a bit (and they'll start to disappear soon after that)

Not sure how much faster the 880 will be, as it's based on the same architecture and still 28nm. Shouldn't be much faster, not the typical 20%+.

hmm would it be worth it to get the 780Ti config with 2 of the 144Hz monitors of the 780sli build and stick with that til november and get another 780Ti as the pricess drop? or will the pricedrop only be like 15% or something