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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2014, 10:20:23 am »
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I can use ur words aswell. I also have 7 if and 7 ps(8 before the patch). for sure I will hit strong enough, especially on the horseback. why whould u complain about 1h cav then? 2h/pole ain't less op.

all of u did some agi shitty builds and then complains that STR builds one-shot u. great logic. nobody make u do that. get some STR and u won't be one-shoted. until that stop QQ lel

7 PS is not needed on horseback, you can 1 hit with 5
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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2014, 10:59:08 am »
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7 PS is not needed on horseback, you can 1 hit with 5

funny, but sometimes I can't one-shot archers with bumpslah... so that is  completely untruth.
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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2014, 11:41:44 am »
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funny, but sometimes I can't one-shot archers with bumpslah... so that is  completely untruth.
When I move slow I can't onehit anyone, when I move fast I can't onehit only tin cans. Also you don't need bumpslash for archers.
Btw Imo lancecav isn't less op then 1h cav it's just underused atm.

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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2014, 11:57:13 am »
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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2014, 12:07:48 pm »
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hahahahahahhahahahahaahahahhaahahahahahahahahahaaahahahahahhahahhahaha.

1h cav is the 1 hitting wonder build that takes little to no skill to use, want to play a difficult class on horse> try LHB on horse thats how 1h/2h cab should be, not insta swing, bumpslashing, 1 hit killing machine.

the reason why i left royanns out of this is because he at least does not use  a heavy horse unlike you and grellernort, your both armour and 1h cav crutching, remove your heavy horse and you both suck.

LHB is just a bad horseback weapon, though its pretty good vs low armour.

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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2014, 12:17:47 pm »
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well its not my class that's allowing me to survive all that shit, its my build and high level.
In a way it is your class that let's you have that incredibly high amount of both IF and armor, a 2hander doesn't need to invest in that many different skills, so the skills you do invest in can, in general, be at the top level of what your AGI and STR allow you to have them at. For example, a 2hander doesn't need to invest in something equivalent to PD, PT or riding to be able to play as that class. Of course that is the way that class is designed to be and in that aspect, has an advantage.
Though you are right, your high level and gen makes your class OP lol
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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2014, 12:51:44 pm »
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well 5 ath is standard for a level 30 ground shielder which should make you far more op than you curreny are but the fact is you re weak as a peasant on the ground :D

apart from that lets take a look at pros and cons of the hardest class ever;

pros:
more damage than decent two handera or polearmers with the apeed bonus
bumpslash , which is not counterable, high damaging and unstoppable ( none of the classes apart from 1h cav has such a move)
a shield which prtects you from projectiles and some unlucky melee hits
horse bump damage (which is an important factor)
horse bumps instant knockdown or at least disturb the attack
cavalry swords are actually the best ones on ground aswell
your weapon and shield are 1 slot which lets you get 1 sidearm atleast
you can get heavy armor because u re on hb so you dont get effectrd on speed
you re mobile, you can scout and/or retreat easily
cons:
enormous amount of repairs (which is not a problen for dedicated cavs. you get valour every round and linger around with x5 for hours )

why do you keep insisting you re playing hard mode?

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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2014, 12:52:34 pm »
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Just wanted to point out that Saxon is pretty glorious as 1h cav. It was a short episode in his crpg history yet he was outstanding. Great positioning, great timing and great if dismounted.
the thing is Sargon was still cav when i tried cav, and i do remember us complementing each other at the time  :lol:
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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2014, 01:14:55 pm »
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the thing is Sargon was still cav when i tried cav, and i do remember us complementing each other at the time  :lol:
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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2014, 01:16:29 pm »
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bumpslash , which is not counterable, high damaging and unstoppable ( none of the classes apart from 1h cav has such a move)

Not counterable and unstoppable? :lol:

Play the class and learn the weakness of it and you'll counter it just fine. I very rarely die to 1h cav as infantry, and when I do it's usually because I didn't pay attention. A bumpslash is quite easy to avoid if you know what you're doing. If you've played 1h cav yourself and haven't learned to counter it on foot yourself, then it's a l2p issue.

cavalry swords are actually the best ones on ground aswell

Disagree. They're not as bad as some guys makes them out to be, but there are better 1h weapons out there. I wouldn't take a ACS as my sword if I was playing shielder without riding skill. The Messers, Niuweidao, Italian Sword, Scimitars are better swords imo.
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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2014, 01:19:37 pm »
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well 5 ath is standard for a level 30 ground shielder which should make you far more op than you curreny are but the fact is you re weak as a peasant on the ground :D

apart from that lets take a look at pros and cons of the hardest class ever;

pros:
more damage than decent two handera or polearmers with the apeed bonus
bumpslash , which is not counterable, high damaging and unstoppable ( none of the classes apart from 1h cav has such a move)
a shield which prtects you from projectiles and some unlucky melee hits
horse bump damage (which is an important factor)
horse bumps instant knockdown or at least disturb the attack
cavalry swords are actually the best ones on ground aswell
your weapon and shield are 1 slot which lets you get 1 sidearm atleast
you can get heavy armor because u re on hb so you dont get effectrd on speed
you re mobile, you can scout and/or retreat easily
cons:
enormous amount of repairs (which is not a problen for dedicated cavs. you get valour every round and linger around with x5 for hours )

why do you keep insisting you re playing hard mode?

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oh Kratos it's all an entire fabrication... poor proves i can say 100000 same poor proves against any calss. from horsexbowmans to 2h.
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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2014, 01:22:11 pm »
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When I move slow I can't onehit anyone, when I move fast I can't onehit only tin cans. Also you don't need bumpslash for archers.
Btw Imo lancecav isn't less op then 1h cav it's just underused atm.

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PPS: Also wanted to say that the "nerf" didn't affect 7 riding builds at all. I still use my Arab and War Horse.

With the increased riding req arabian also got nerfed with 1 speed ess, though it did gain some more armor.

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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2014, 01:27:30 pm »
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Not counterable and unstoppable? :lol:

Play the class and learn the weakness of it and you'll counter it just fine. I very rarely die to 1h cav as infantry, and when I do it's usually because I didn't pay attention. A bumpslash is quite easy to avoid if you know what you're doing. If you've played 1h cav yourself and haven't learned to counter it on foot yourself, then it's a l2p issue.

Disagree. They're not as bad as some guys makes them out to be, but there are better 1h weapons out there. I wouldn't take a ACS as my sword if I was playing shielder without riding skill. The Messers, Niuweidao, Italian Sword, Scimitars are better swords imo.

well, the main idea of 1h cav is killing the ones who arent paying attention anyway.i can ofc jump away and slash cavs when they ride towards me , but you cant do such a thing when fighting with others aka unaware.

yes ofc there are better 1h swords out there but you wont face any consequences when you get unhorsed with an acs in your hands.also i cant think of any better 1v1 weapon than the acs.

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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2014, 01:29:53 pm »
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oh Kratos it's all an entire fabrication... poor proves i can say 100000 same poor proves against any calss. from horsexbowmans to 2h.

please try doing it :D but make it bullshit free please ; dont add pros like 1 hitting from butt for archers ;)

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Re: heavy cav got herfed...
« Reply #74 on: July 16, 2014, 02:32:26 pm »
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not bad... i started playing 1hcav...1st gen....  i hope i can reach your score....

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