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Small archer/ranged counter
« on: July 12, 2014, 01:31:23 am »
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With the influx of ranged theres a small counter I have been using and it works pretty well. You just grab the 0 skill shield, hide covered round shield, and put it on your back.

When you KNOW you are gunna get shot just turn your back and the shield's 21 armor rating will absorb a great amount of damage for you.

I got 1 shield skill so I could use a 28 armor shield and made a video of how it works.


It took 10 arrows to kill me with a Yumi bow + tatar arrows and 6 PD. Normally I die in 2-3 shots from that HA. I only have 32 armor so for people who wear more armor they will see an even better tanking ability.  :D

Its not a hard counter but its def better than trying to actually shield arrows/bolts holding the shield out. The 0 skill shield is only 2 weight and it has 21 armor so it is definitely worth just having on your back to cover you while you are fighting at least.

Stats wise, only the armor rating of the shield counts into its absorbing ability, so if you have higher shield skill the plate shields (buckler doesnt work because it's on your hip) are great. Headshots/legshots dont get reduced damage but that still makes it more difficult for the ranged. Also, higher shield skill does not factor into the absorbability of the shield.

And unfortunately it doesn't reduce melee damage :p
« Last Edit: July 12, 2014, 01:37:09 am by PsychoTwins »
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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 01:41:11 am »
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The formula is the shield's resistance stat + 10 that gets added to your body armor when a ranged projectile hits the correct area. So if you had 60 body armor with a hide covered round shield (0 shield skill), you would have an effective 91 body armor against projectiles that hit your back.

No, this isn't overpowered. I've tried it out at Farmer Bob's suggestion and while it's hiliarious with 75 body armor (106 effective versus ranged when hit in back) it's not game breaking. Good ranged will shoot my legs or head for massive damage, and if I actually try to use the shield it'll get 3 shot.

On a side note, the great lance and jousting lance count as ranged projectiles (ask Tydeus for details) due to how they were coded. I'll test it out in battle and report my findings.
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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 01:47:31 am »
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Tammo and I tested it out this morning. It works and is a great way to reduce damage.

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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 02:11:10 am »
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Well ofc I'll turn my back to an archer when I try to chase him. Sure it will help lol.
I mean I will suffer less damage but won't ever catch him...
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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2014, 02:21:49 am »
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At last I truly see... the only real counter against archers...

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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 03:54:56 am »
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Well ofc I'll turn my back to an archer when I try to chase him. Sure it will help lol.
I mean I will suffer less damage but won't ever catch him...

To chase archers, what you can do is run at them, and when it looks like they're about to release their arrow (or bolt, or whatever) spin around in the air. I haven't put this into practice yet, but it sounds promising and hilarious.
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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2014, 04:23:38 am »
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Remove the double shield movement penalty so I can use this  :twisted:

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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2014, 04:42:03 am »
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The formula is the shield's resistance stat + 10 that gets added to your body armor when a ranged projectile hits the correct area. So if you had 60 body armor with a hide covered round shield (0 shield skill), you would have an effective 91 body armor against projectiles that hit your back.

No, this isn't overpowered. I've tried it out at Farmer Bob's suggestion and while it's hiliarious with 75 body armor (106 effective versus ranged when hit in back) it's not game breaking. Good ranged will shoot my legs or head for massive damage, and if I actually try to use the shield it'll get 3 shot.

On a side note, the great lance and jousting lance count as ranged projectiles (ask Tydeus for details) due to how they were coded. I'll test it out in battle and report my findings.

As for the lance part, I can tell you from experience (around 6 months of lancing) that people who have their back turned and have shields usually survive a couch. However, that may partially be due to the reduced speed bonus as presumably they are not running towards you, and may even be running away.

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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2014, 05:39:30 am »
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I endorse this. HA doesn't need a nerf guys!

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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2014, 06:48:05 am »
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On a side note, the great lance and jousting lance count as ranged projectiles (ask Tydeus for details) due to how they were coded. I'll test it out in battle and report my findings.

D-does that mean that w... we could chamber arrows? :O
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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2014, 07:53:24 am »
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Rumor says you always have been able to!

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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2014, 07:59:03 am »
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How To Chase Archers With Shield On Back

How To Counter Bitch Ass HA's


I had 58 body armor + 14 from gloves = 72

72 + shield armor bonus(21+10) = 103 total armor  :D

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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2014, 08:00:31 am »
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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2014, 09:54:26 am »
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This is wonderful lol

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Re: Small archer/ranged counter
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2014, 08:56:16 pm »
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You just gonna.. okay. :mad: