Agi shielder build?

[Taser]

Well it depends on how you use your shield really.

I personally am the one always charging in first whenever I have a shield. So I am taking a load of hits, thus I need more shield skill.
If you run around fighting 1v1 most of the time you indeed do not need a lot of shield skill.

Fair enough. I still don't see the issue with lower shield skill unless you absolutely want to tank a ton of hits. And for the most part it seems a bit useless unless you have a very strong defensive playstyle/non hero mindset.

As a shielder, I wouldn't perı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨sonally cut shield skill for iron flesh.

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[SirProto]

mine is 12/24 with a steel buckler and a long dagger its mostly just a distraction build to keep people occupied while your team mate close in to help/archer hunting

4 ps
8 ath
8 shield
8 wm

my favourite tactic is to head for a huge group of enemies then dodge and weave between and poke unsuspecting ones while they all swing and teamhit trying to catch you

[Kan_Tervel]

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Level: 31
Health Points: 50
Weapon Proficiency Points: 15

Strength: 15
Agility: 24

One Handed: 184

Power Strike: 5
Shield: 5
Athletics: 8
Weapon Master: 8

light armor and fast weapon Grosses Messer,Spathovaklion,Side Sword,Steel Pick,Italian Sword,Niuweidao

[Johammeth]

I'm 12/27 on my alt right now. It's a bit overspecialized IMO.

I'm too much of a noodle-armed schoolgirl for frontline duty, but I'm great at running down smelly archers!

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The best argument for shield skill is that it increases neutral shield nudge damage.

Anyone that plays NA2 knows I spam neutral shield nudges like no one else, and with 7 shield skill I believe I do 21 blunt or so. Won't do damage to someone in plate, but it will 3-4 shot people with no helms/cloth helms (which is a surprising number of people). I love fighting the archers that block all my attacks, but still die in <10 seconds from nudge damage.

[Grumpy_Nic]

Neutral shield nudge means without having it raised? Didnt know it does more dmg. Will start spamming it when I get home.

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Neutral shield nudge means without having it raised? Didnt know it does more dmg. Will start spamming it when I get home.

Yeah, don't press attack or block, just V. It has a wonky hitbox, and about half my deaths are because the nudge inexplicably whiffs. But when it's connecting, it is super annoying for your opponent (because they rarely get to attack).

[agweber]

Oh damn, didn't know that damage increases with skill. What's the base damage based on? shield weight?

I wonder what the theoretical max shield nudge damage is on a STF.

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https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2uSZrPWE

Shield bash damage comes from strength / 3  + shield skill * 2 as raw damage. The defensive shield bash currently divides damage by 5.

21-18: 19 raw
18-24: 22 raw
12-30: 24 raw

aka 0 damage 99% of the time.

So it's a function of strength and shield skill, irrespective of shield weight.

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Shame it's Str and shield skill, the 2 are incompatible. Some nerd needs to work out the 'optimum' shield bash build for damage. Then i want to have a fist vs shield fight with them!

The strength contribution is minimal. For a "shield bash build", you would want to be 3/39 or whatever, which still only does 27blunt damage, unmodified by power strike (possibly modified by speed bonus?). Would be fun for trolling, but don't expect to be getting a lot of kills from bashes. Neutral bash is an augment to your regular melee attacks, not a primary attack itself. It has a cooldown and a really crappy hitbox, so you can't rely on it.

[Tojo]

hmm.. I think I really want as much IF as I can get, is only 2 shield skill enough?

Ironflesh is for the weak of mind and body... and no 2 shield is not enough

[Huscarlton_Banks]

"Optimal" build for getting a 30 (15 * 2) damage shield basher would be 0/45 + 15 shield, achievable at level 32 dunno how many people got those bugged respecs though.

Funny thing is they can get 0/45, 15 shield, 14 athletics at level 36.

For the non-bugged shield bashers out there, 6/42 + 14 shield is the earliest build you can get 30 damage (6/3 + 14*2) with, achievable at level 33.

Sadly you can only get 9 athletics at 36 with 6/42.

I'm a bit interested in what crpg_nudge_knock_into_crouch_threshold is, it's only referenced once in the link.