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Re: S Key Pls slow backpedal
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2014, 12:49:22 am »
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And requires you to be right in their face... which requires you to not be blocking, and leaves you horrendously open to kicks which are more consistent at connecting and far longer reach than nudges

Tbh it already works quite well when you play 1h only and specifically pay attention to opportunities to use attack-nudge when the criteria are met. The range is even quite large from a melee point of view, you dont have to touch the enemy playermodel at all. The only problem I got with knockdown nudge currently is that it only immobilizes the lower part of the body. Your enemy will fall down but he can still block/attack.
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Re: S Key Pls slow backpedal
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2014, 03:02:05 am »
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Backpedaling vs facehuggers is one thing, but we arent all facehuggers. Not every 1hander is even a facehugger. I hate picks more than most, but still... backpedalling is just gayness.

S-key is a strategy to keep control of the fight, especially vs shorter weapons. If you cant learn how to fight this with a short weapon then get a longer one. If someone is backpeddal spamming usually a single hold attack puts them off their tempo.

If backpeddaling wasnt an option you would get shit on by the insane speed and confusing animations of 1h.

Backpedaling vs facehuggers is one thing, but we arent all facehuggers. Not every 1hander is even a facehugger. I hate picks more than most, but still... backpedalling is just gayness.

If you get the chance to facehug and dont then you are not making full use of being 1h, just like how a longer weapons should make us of, guess what, the range through backpeddaling. Its just how the game works, what people have found to be the most effective ways to play their classes. Changing this would change too much of a core mechanic in the game i feel.




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Re: S Key Pls slow backpedal
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 02:12:25 pm »
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W is faster. If you stay out of kick range you shouldn't have much trouble with S keyers

W isn't faster when holding an attack or block. It's actually the exact same speed as S.

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Re: S Key Pls slow backpedal
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 03:01:31 pm »
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Nudge

And not lolstabbing or hitting through walls is not full use of a 2hander or polearmer, but i dont see how that improves the game. Just cos you can do it, does not mean it's a positive thing for the mod - like getting so close that people can't see your animations, or the reaction to this which is to fight your entire battle holding the 'Run Away' key, it shits all over immersion if that was even possible in this game. Like with everything to do with this mod, agree to disagree.

Nudge isnt very reliable.

You say all these things are bad for the mod, maybe for immersion but thats not what we play it for is it? no its because its competative, its difficult and theres a lot of neat stuff you can learn to make the fight in your favor. People usually call these things abuse but i just see it as knowledge and skill, remove this and suddenly the game becomes very dull, block-attack-block with no real strategies but patience untill one fails multiple blocks enough to die.
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Re: S Key Pls slow backpedal
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 03:53:27 pm »
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REMOVE TURNRATE NERF 2k14 PLS, it's still pissing me off more than anything in this game, it just makes the game feel clunky.

Haven't you heard what San said? There hasn't been any sort of turn rate nerf at all since over a year!

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Re: S Key Pls slow backpedal
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 04:12:19 pm »
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Yeah, the turnrate stuff is from 2012 (or was it 2011..), maybe the beginning of 2013, and kept the same until now.

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Re: S Key Pls slow backpedal
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 06:07:24 pm »
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Haven't you heard what San said? There hasn't been any sort of turn rate nerf at all since over a year!

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Talking about the really old one, i want native turnrates.
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