Nerf estoc stab

[Chosen1]

[Canary]

Is this because of Riran?

[Chosen1]

Riran is not the only estoc user in NA and EU. but yeah that guys lolstabs are crazy though

[Apsod]

If anything it should be buffed. Its pretty much shit.

[San]

+3 estoc is 107 length, 100 speed, 32 pierce, and 30 cut. It's just a long espada with +2 pierce. Even compared to regular espada, it only has +1 cut, the same pierce, and -2 speed. For polearms, compare it to any spear.

Stabs complement swings, which is what makes the feints so tricky. When the swings are that weak, that limits some of its adaptability since it has to rely on stabs so much.

[Lannistark]

2h stab has been so nerfed in this mod, and STILL people cry about it. I get the feeling until stab isn't completely removed from 2h, people will still complain.

[Krex]

Now...lets get to Realism for a second,
as far as I know,the purpose of the Estoc was to be a stabbing-weapon...

[Austrian]

Now...lets get to Realism for a second,
as far as I know,the purpose of the Estoc was to be a stabbing-weapon...

Does crpg has any realism?
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[Gurnisson]

Stabs complement swings, which is what makes the feints so tricky. When the swings are that weak, that limits some of its adaptability since it has to rely on stabs so much.

Basically this.

I'd take a (War) Spear over an Estoc myself if you compare it to stab-oriented weapons.

[Rico]

The only thing I dislike about the Estoc is +2 stats compared to +3

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[Rebelyell]

In EU nobody uses Estoc, because it's simply the shittiest 2h sword in this mod. How can someone seriously complain about it?

teribiuru weapon

[Kalp]

stats are  fine fuck off
it's sweet weapon if you have right build/armor weight

[Johammeth]

The only solution is to change the Estoc's model from a sword to a gigantic syringe.

[marcus]

The only solution is to change the Estoc's stab sound to crying noises.

fixed

[Tigero]

I'm still confused why you added this weapon, and then based it on the most broken mechanic in warband.  I'm sick of getting killed by inter-dimensional lolstabs that should do no damage, but take half of my hp.

I propose that you add swing damage and decrease thrust damage.

No shut up, it's my class and i have crafted a new exellent agiwhoring character just for this noble weapon. The estoc can be overreached with a fucking dagger so gain some skills before making such a claim.