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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2014, 01:06:06 am »
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Far Cry 2 did so many things right. Graphics were great, weapon system was fun, shooting mechanics were pretty cool and the best thing was the atmosphere that it had. Africa felt damp and sweaty as hell. There were so much cool new things that few FPS had done before. Too bad they put in so much crappy repetitive gameplay of which everyone and their mother could grasp that it was a poor idea. It's like the first Assassin's Creed, all this cool innovation and great atmosphere, but mucking it up with the terrible repeating missions. Still Far Cry 2 is my favourite Far Cry and Assassin's Creed my favourite Assassin's Creed. Sequels made the games far better gameplay design wise, but lost a lot of character and convincing atmosphere.

... and they have managed to fuck it all up with the story. Or the lack of.
And the very "meaningful" decisions you could make.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2014, 01:43:19 am »
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Guess I'll bay it too. Steam recently started accepting payments in TL only to double screw us. Prices are even more outrageous now.

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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2014, 02:35:33 am »
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Those respawning checkpoints  :rolleyes:

Btw... Bought my Limited Edition for 33€ at a key seller. No need to pay full price nowadays.

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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2014, 02:54:10 am »
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Gief keys. Where do all u phaggots get keys. Keys or ban.



Also FC 1 > FC 2 > FC3 but all FCs are good.
Only thing i disliked in FC2 was that there was no fast travel to locations, bases respawning after scouting them, not 100% good AI. But story was pretty good.

And only 1 thing i disliked in FC3. Snakes. Those fucking snakes.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2014, 08:15:39 am »
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What I found hilarious in FC3 was capturing a base then having the guys show up right after to man it. Like where the hell were you when I was attacking it solo? Good fucking timing you assbutts.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2014, 09:17:04 am »
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What I found hilarious in FC3 was capturing a base then having the guys show up right after to man it. Like where the hell were you when I was attacking it solo? Good fucking timing you assbutts.
That's what was so gay about FC3. It was very, very game-y. The world didn't feel "alive" or "real" at all.

Also, it seems FC4 is doing the same thing as FC3 where you play a retarded American squeamish kid... yet in gameplay you're an expert cold blooded killer.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2014, 09:25:59 am »
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That's what was so gay about FC3. It was very, very game-y. The world didn't feel "alive" or "real" at all.

Also, it seems FC4 is doing the same thing as FC3 where you play a retarded American squeamish kid... yet in gameplay you're an expert cold blooded killer.

I know.. I remember the beginning and the first time you kill someone and the char is all "omg I just did that.. omg. omg.." Then brutally murders people and animals less than 20 minutes later without any thought. It definitely threw things off.

It was a fun game but the story was bad as well as the world.. It was cool to have patrols and etc and being able to take over the bases but.. it didn't feel like it changed things dramatically in the world or at all really. The rebels took over the bases then..... nothing.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2014, 10:02:18 am »
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The characters in FC3 were awesome tho!
Vaaz, Citra, that CIA dude and so on... they were interesting and entertaining. I don't really get why you would say the story was bad. I think it was exceptional good for a full-blown FPS.

Remember, we're talking shooter here and not some story driven action rpg...
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2014, 01:03:35 pm »
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I much preffered FC3 to FC2. FC2 was boring and bland. When I finally got past the first map I was over joyed that I got out of the boring first one, only to discover the second one was exactly the same rinse and repeat. The story line was boring as well.

FC3 at least had some memorable characters and moments. The world was a lot more interesting to travel around as well.

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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2014, 02:50:49 pm »
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FC2 was awesome for me. Pretty much what Teeth said. Africa felt good, graphics were great, much less "cartoony" and it felt immersive. I can't say the same about FC3. Can't recall much about story, I had fun just fucking around.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2014, 03:20:41 pm »
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Agree, Africa was better; only good character in fc3 was the australian rapist imo, he had some charm but the rest was shit, starting with the protagonist.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2014, 03:33:38 pm »
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Having the exact same opinion here. FC2 was quite atmospheric. Gameplay and plot might have been somewhat crap but Africa definately felt better. Really praying here that they make a serius non-cartoony sequel in Africa but with current FC-s gameplay.

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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2014, 04:01:25 pm »
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For Africa bites like a tse-tse fly, and once the drug is in the blood it can never be wholly exorcized.
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2014, 04:15:31 pm »
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Re: Far Cry 4
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2014, 04:19:15 pm »
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I know.. I remember the beginning and the first time you kill someone and the char is all "omg I just did that.. omg. omg.." Then brutally murders people and animals less than 20 minutes later without any thought. It definitely threw things off.

Haha yes, TotalBiscuit mentioned this and coined the term "ludonarrative dissonance" in his Tomb Raider video, another game where you are a normal person sissy and turn psychotic murderer in twenty seconds without anyone even taking notice.

Actually I think it's very much tied in to what the norms of single player FPS gameplay are. Games where you aren't one person fighting a whole army of AI dumbdumbs are in fact extremely rare. This is incredibly unrealistic too. Ten years ago all the characters we had were cliche badass dudebro types, so it wasn't really a problem to see them kill thousands of people. But now that we have characters supposed to have emotions it doesn't make sense anymore. Also this is even apparent in parts of the game that are "pseudo-gameplay" such as QTEs. Very frequently, this type of game sort of "enters QTE mode" in order to force some negative event to happen, such as you getting ambushed and captured, because that would be impossible within actual gameplay. Interestingly, FC3 did treat the subject a little bit better than TR by at least acknowledging the fact that the "hero" became a mass murderer.

It seems the designers either failed to understand the issue or couldn't find a satisfying solution in gameplay. I think it could be possible to make realistic gun fights with very few enemies interesting, that would at least reduce the dissonance.