What do YOU think is a reasonable price for heirlooms?

[Xol!]

Here's what the heirlooms on the market are going for as of 5/19:

200.000, Commoner's Long Dagger
300.000, Heavy Military Pick
400.000, Tempered Heavy Great Sword
460.000, Tempered Italian Sword
460.000, Thick Coat of Plates
499.900, Thick Black Helmet
499.900, Well Bred Destrier
500.000, Well Bred Courser
500.000, Well Bred Courser
500.000, Well Bred Destrier
599.999, Well Bred Courser
600.000, Tempered Langes Messer
600.000, Well Bred Courser
660.000, Masterwork Falchion
675.000, Staffman's Quarter Staff
700.000, Well Bred Cataphract Horse
700.000, Well Bred Courser
700.000, Well Bred Courser
700.000, Well Bred Plated Charger
900.000, Balanced Heavy Bastard Sword
900.000, Masterwork Heavy Crossbow
1.000.000, Balanced Danish Greatsword
1.000.000, Balanced Long Espada Eslavona
1.000.000, Tempered Flamberge
1.100.000, Champion Cataphract
1.300.000, Masterwork Long Espada Eslavona
1.500.000, Champion Charger
1.500.000, Champion Courser
1.600.000, Mighty Great Maul
1.750.000, Champion Charger
2.000.000, Masterwork Arabian Cavalry Sword
20.000.000, Masterwork Danish Greatsword

[Tears of Destiny]

I would pay 200K per level of the heirloom, depending on the specific heirloom give or take.

I would never sell my heirlooms though, only trade them for other heirlooms.

[Murchad]

I paid 750k for a twice heirloomed item and i would gladly do it again.
Also i think alot of the regular players have tired of retiring and are leveling to higher levels.
if someone above 31 decides later that they want a certain item it they may pay even more to get it as they can't retire again to get it.

[Immolarian]

Kinda funny that high gens can run arround on plated charger 24/7 now, when they sell their heirloom points.

[Barbas]

I look at it this way:

Getting to level 31 takes.. something like 8.8mil experience, right?  (You can adjust if my numbers are wrong.)  So at the current 100 gold / 1000 experience base rate, if you're playing in super cheap gear, going 1-31 would get you something like.. what, 700k gold after repair costs?  That's assuming, again, super cheap gear - and no expense of buying anything new.  If you're not going full peasant, maybe 500k gold?

So I definitely would not pay any more than that - whatever gold I would expect to earn if I just retired and got the heirloom point myself - per heirloom point required for the item.  If it will take about the same time to earn the gold to buy an item as it would for me to heirloom it myself.. well, I might as well get that meager xp bonus from going up a few generations. 

But not all items are equal, so depending on the item I might set a limit at much lower than that even.  It's hard to say of course, given the different requirements on items and all the other factors involved - but some are going to be more or less popular.  If I'm looking for a niche item that not too many people use, it might be that I'm the only serious buyer interested in a Masterwork Awlpike, so a seller may have to negotiate me if they want to sell the item at all.  Supply and demand, yada yada.

[Zergmar]

did some math earlier on:

while farming 1 million gold (playing and having to repair gear) you'll fully retire 5 times
and leeching completely naked you'll still get 3 heirloom points before 1 million gold

so around 200k per heirloom point is where buying makes sense, otherwise just go and heirloom yourself

[WaltF4]

Gold made per generation = (8735843exp * (50gold * Average Multiplier - 0.002 * Average Equipment Cost)) / (Average Multiplier * (1000exp + 30exp * ( Generation - 1)))

With generations greater than 16 counting as 16. I believe the 0.0027 rate of maintenance is still accurate, but testing is ongoing.

EDIT: It appears that the rate of maintenance may have been reduced since the time of my previous test. A sample of 100 games shows a ~0.002 rate of maintenance with a breakage chance of ~4% per tick and a repair cost 5% of the item buying price. These values are consistent with those released by the development team.

[Tydeus]

Getting to level 31 takes.. something like 8.8mil experience, right?  (You can adjust if my numbers are wrong.)  So at the current 100 gold / 1000 experience base rate, if you're playing in super cheap gear, going 1-31 would get you something like.. what, 700k gold after repair costs?  That's assuming, again, super cheap gear - and no expense of buying anything new.  If you're not going full peasant, maybe 500k gold?

It's actually 50 gold, so your numbers are off by more than half, after repairs.

[HarunYahya]

I can retire every week/2 weeks and buying my no life grinding should be 200-500k dependent on my heirloom .
For example : Shields need shield skill so i need to play 3 times shielder to make a shield 3x loomed . Same goes to horses,bows,throwing weapons (I don't think that anyone will buy tho)

I think price of a mw Great long axe should be around 600k but champ arabian warhorse should be 900-1200 k.

[Rhaelys]

The maximum amount of gold you could gain in a single generation is actually at generation 1, because with higher generations the amount of XP you gain per tick is higher, but the amount of gold you gain per tick remains the same.


Thus, with 8,735,000 XP needed to retire: (I do not know the exact values for the last three digits, but it's inconsequential)

8,735,000 XP/1,000 XP per tick = 8,735 ticks x 50 gold = 436,750 gold

This holds regardless of multiplier, because gold increases by the same proportion that XP does. Consider the case of a perpetual 5x multiplier:

8,735,000 XP/5,000 XP per tick = 1,747 ticks x 250 gold = 436,750 gold


Now let's consider the worst case scenario.

You gain the least amount of gold when you receive maximum XP ticks, which is set to 1,450 at a x1 (generation 16).

8,735,000 XP/1,450 XP per tick = 6025 ticks x 50 gold = 301,250 gold


What was the point of this post?

I don't know.

[bilwit]

did some math earlier on:

while farming 1 million gold (playing and having to repair gear) you'll fully retire 5 times
and leeching completely naked you'll still get 3 heirloom points before 1 million gold

so around 200k per heirloom point is where buying makes sense, otherwise just go and heirloom yourself

The time it takes to get to 31 factors into the price.

[Tydeus]

What many people are forgetting in this thread, is that there are now several players that simply do not want to retire anymore. This means they're unable to gain anymore heirlooms, without buying/trading for them. So you have players with a demand for heirlooms, but aren't willing to do anything to create more heirlooms. Thus the demand is far greater than it otherwise would be. I'd say 250K minimum per heirloom,  800K minimum for a masterworked item.

[Torp]

most people here refuse to sell heirlooms for gold because you say gold is worthless... and that is the reason it is worthless! if påeople just started using gold for trading it would BECOME valuable, and the market would become much more stable, and in the end it would benefit us all that we would be able to tarde wthout finding perfect matches.

It's just like real-life money; people could also just say "It' just paper, cant sue it for shit", but they don't because people all over the world agree that these pieces of paper are worth something, and tehrefore they actually are even thoguh it's just paper.
If we did the same with cRPG gold, we would be able to actually get some trading done!

[Lech]

If i would be horseman, i would sell some heirlooms to maintain upkeep for my horse + heavy armor.

[_RXN_]

A reasonable price of the heirloom is a price that a buyer is ready to offer to you.