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Offline Corsair831

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Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« on: May 21, 2014, 07:11:21 pm »
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i used to get ~~ 1/3 of my kills playing 1h with the rightswing

it's honestly dropped to 1/20th at most

please for the love of god can we just have the old animation back

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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 07:39:46 pm »
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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 07:41:20 pm »
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I like old one way more to be honest
I like to see it back or maybe give us secondary mode 2ith difrent animations so we will ahve all of them?
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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 07:59:06 pm »
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You can get it back, Corsair. Get on a horse.  :)

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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 08:28:45 pm »
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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 08:33:53 pm »
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I like the new one way more. I actually feel comfortable using right swing now, more variation up close and I'm still able to play the reach game. New right swing feels a lot smoother compaired to the clumsy old right swing.

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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 09:04:11 pm »
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If you hate the current animation, you guys have to wait.
As i already told you corsair, Tydeus is working on the animation, he already improved it a lot, and it's possible to download it for your own or just wait next patch.

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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 09:09:00 pm »
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The alternate "new" 1h rightswing animation that Tydeus linked in the other thread is much better.
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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2014, 12:54:45 am »
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it's not about the animation, i couldn't care less how it looks, it's the fact that it's significantly shorter than the old one, and that it hits way too early in the animation
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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2014, 01:05:09 am »
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Actually new animation has many advantages which re not in the old one;
-You wont glance on someone while doing left footwork.
-You can spam from right side.
-You can hit an enemy's head if you even don't aim at head.
-It won't stuck in close quarters.

Normally shielder is expected to hit from overhead or left in close quarters, but now you can use stab and right swing too which makes shielder OP in close quarters.

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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2014, 01:11:23 am »
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Actually new animation has many advantages which re not in the old one;
-You wont glance on someone while doing left footwork.
-You can spam from right side.
-You can hit an enemy's head if you even don't aim at head.
-It won't stuck in close quarters.

Normally shielder is expected to hit from overhead or left in close quarters, but now you can use stab and right swing too which makes shielder OP in close quarters.

but it DOES suck in close quarters, it's like an incredibly gimped left swing, but with half the speed and is much easier to spot

it was so much more useful actually having the ability to target switch

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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2014, 01:16:18 am »
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it's not about the animation, i couldn't care less how it looks, it's the fact that it's significantly shorter than the old one, and that it hits way too early in the animation

Did you test the old and new animations' reach compared to the other animations? When I tried to test, I didn't see a significant difference in max range and couldn't tell if it was even changed at all. Right swing was slightly shorter than stab or ~ the maximum effective stab reach before it begins to glance and noticeably longer than the overhead for both animations. I was only able to test against horses, though. Not the best method, but you should try testing yourself in some way in isolated cases outside of combat.

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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2014, 01:29:49 am »
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Did you test the old and new animations' reach compared to the other animations? When I tried to test, I didn't see a significant difference in max range and couldn't tell if it was even changed at all. Right swing was slightly shorter than stab or ~ the maximum effective stab reach before it begins to glance and noticeably longer than the overhead for both animations. I was only able to test against horses, though. Not the best method, but you should try testing yourself in some way in isolated cases outside of combat.

i've played crpg for ~~ 3000 hours, 90% of which has been with 95 reach 1h swords
prior to that, i played ~~ 3000 hours of native, within which i played infantry, using primarily 95 reach 1h swords

i know the reaches of the swords like i know the reach of my fingers, and i can tell you it's ---definitely--- shorter
i'm releasing the swing to get the maximum range which i know would have hit with the old animation, and they're missing every damn time

i'd imagine for a lot of the guys on crpg, who use incredibly big swords (nordic champion sword, spathion, arabian cavalry sword etc etc), don't play for the very limit of their reach, and probably try and hit quite comfortably within that reach. seeing as i use a medium length sword however, and i'm very practiced at this, i always try and play for the very edge of the reach of the sword. for the majority of guys who do not try and play for the edge of the reach, and try and hit comfortably within the sword's range, they're not going to notice the difference in range, because they were never using it anyway.

but for those of us to whom that extra 3 or 4 points of reach was the difference between kills and no kills, this 1h animation change is absolutely devestating.
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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2014, 01:37:15 am »
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You could at least try, otherwise it's just a clash of experiences where of course it'll be difficult to come to an agreement.

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Re: Please can we get old 1h right swing back
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2014, 01:48:36 am »
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I like the new rightswing because it tends to be blocked less often than the old animation. Maybe enemies are not used to it, maybe it looks so strange that they confuse it with another attack direction, or they underestimate the speed, I dunno. But in a way, this feels like a buff to onehanded, without totally breaking balance. And I think this buff was needed, because once you know how to control your block direction, it is much much much much much much much much much easier to get kills with twohanders or polearms, unless you have a really gay onehanded build that only combines OP stuff such as loomed heavy armor, super-easily armor penetrating weapons and high level.
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