Future fashion

[Torben]

hm,  didnt quite read the hole thread.  what Id like to say to one of macropuses early posts:

about the eastern and western kind of "caring"  you mentioned:  the real point is that in the west,  you have the freedom and are fostered to make up your own mind about everything.
this of course doesnt always work,  look at conchita for example.  half of the voters for her are probably dumb-whitted hipsters who think its revolutionary to wear a beard and make-up.

the eastern mentality you mention (cant say if its a fact or not,  just going with the info you give me)  seems to want you to not freely make up your mind but to make up your mind in consensus with an indoctrinated moral or a vastly accepted moral (a bit like the wests pseudo-openmindedness).  this of course doesnt completely work either,  as you (the east/russia,  whatever) have just as many free thinkers as any other country.
 
thing is,  actual free thinking comes with intellect and a healthy dosage of experience,  no matter in what country you live.

take the childrens card that close-minded people might play out:  a healthy child seeing a bearded she male will find it awkward,  maybe funny or whatever.  but will never its self turn out transgender just because of having seen it.
on the other hand a child that has transgender tendencies and gets indoctrinated with it being devilishly wrong,  will always have a hard time,  broken psyche and will be so occupied with its inner conflict,  that it might never grow to its full potential.

blup.

[Dark_Blade]

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in my opinion its really bad that such... person won the eurovision. all this unnatural bullshit shouldnt be as popular as it currently is because it makes moral of next generations worse.
freedom! freedom! freeeeeeeeeeeeeedom! but freedom from what can get... gay for example? from the sexual difference? not at all because every healthy human  same as any other animal born to make a new generation and leave the world for life of this(and next) genration(s). you can disagree with it but thats how it works and you can lie to yourself as much as you can, you are free to think whatever you want but it still will be a lie. i really cant get why people are fighting their nature at sexual relations instead of lazyness or this understanding of freedom like some of you got.

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human cant be free. human is a slave of his body and his mind. being free at several points doesnt makes human free at all. so what freedom can we talk about... REAL freedom is something impossible because its independence at EVERYTHING, not a single factor can do anything to your body and mind! yeah thats a freedom. thats a REAL freedom. any gods on this forum? may you tell us hows it to be free??? its probably cool!
but i belive there is not a single god on this forum, so noone know what is this freedom. yes, I am maximalist. but its really wrong how people are using such unsigned words as "freedom". everyone got his own explanation of this word and explanations of two different people can be really different but if dont look inside them - those people can agree with each other... even when FOR REAL they talk about different things. but thats not nice to imagine whats gonna be happen if this misunderstanding will come out.
the ammount of unsigned words and statements in modern world became very high and thats how much misunderstandings are floating around even because of one unsigned word. thats how this world falled into lies. the ammount of bullshit we are getting per day is high enough to even dont mind it. anyway most of it is kinda obvious... but most is not everything.

as many minds people have - as many missunderstanding they gonna get.

so its quite bad for future of mankind to tell next generations that its okay to be gay. we see results of it even now... with time its going to be only worse.

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also i think that freedom of relations between people is kinda wrong too. one day - he loves her, another day - he dont love her, in 1 week he is having sex with someone else, and 1.5 week she is having sex with someonelse etc. wtf... so people are screaming about rights of human in the community\country\world but acting with each other like with some toys that gives fun for some times and just throwing it away when getting bored of it. just wtf. is it freedom? what if i dont want to be toy?

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another one awesome unsigned word named as "love"

... and now, when i will switch the page in browser i will forget about all this because actually i dont give a fuck too... and its wrong. we live in the age of people who dont give a fuck ... for who their own interests are on the first positions and the rest of things are in much lower priority.  ofc we dont think so thats why we may speak about actual things like this one to feel ourselfs a bit more important than we are but history of the world is being written each minute and each second. all our minor actions without gathering worth nothing and gonna be washed out by waves of the time. its a little bit sad but better to think this way than belief in uniqueness and significance of each person which is going to be forver forgotten right after his death

[Kafein]

this of course doesnt completely work either,  as you (the east/russia,  whatever) have just as many free thinkers as any other country.

mmmh

Counting those in prisons and in exile, mayyybe

[Prpavi]

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in my opinion its really bad that such... person won the eurovision. all this unnatural bullshit shouldnt be as popular as it currently is because it makes moral of next generations worse.
freedom! freedom! freeeeeeeeeeeeeedom! but freedom from what can get... gay for example? from the sexual difference? not at all because every healthy human  same as any other animal born to make a new generation and leave the world for life of this(and next) genration(s). you can disagree with it but thats how it works and you can lie to yourself as much as you can, you are free to think whatever you want but it still will be a lie. i really cant get why people are fighting their nature at sexual relations instead of lazyness or this understanding of freedom like some of you got.

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human cant be free. human is a slave of his body and his mind. being free at several points doesnt makes human free at all. so what freedom can we talk about... REAL freedom is something impossible because its independence at EVERYTHING, not a single factor can do anything to your body and mind! yeah thats a freedom. thats a REAL freedom. any gods on this forum? may you tell us hows it to be free??? its probably cool!
but i belive there is not a single god on this forum, so noone know what is this freedom. yes, I am maximalist. but its really wrong how people are using such unsigned words as "freedom". everyone got his own explanation of this word and explanations of two different people can be really different but if dont look inside them - those people can agree with each other... even when FOR REAL they talk about different things. but thats not nice to imagine whats gonna be happen if this misunderstanding will come out.
the ammount of unsigned words and statements in modern world became very high and thats how much misunderstandings are floating around even because of one unsigned word. thats how this world falled into lies. the ammount of bullshit we are getting per day is high enough to even dont mind it. anyway most of it is kinda obvious... but most is not everything.

as many minds people have - as many missunderstanding they gonna get.

so its quite bad for future of mankind to tell next generations that its okay to be gay. we see results of it even now... with time its going to be only worse.

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also i think that freedom of relations between people is kinda wrong too. one day - he loves her, another day - he dont love her, in 1 week he is having sex with someone else, and 1.5 week she is having sex with someonelse etc. wtf... so people are screaming about rights of human in the community\country\world but acting with each other like with some toys that gives fun for some times and just throwing it away when getting bored of it. just wtf. is it freedom? what if i dont want to be toy?

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another one awesome unsigned word named as "love"

... and now, when i will switch the page in browser i will forget about all this because actually i dont give a fuck too... and its wrong. we live in the age of people who dont give a fuck ... for who their own interests are on the first positions and the rest of things are in much lower priority.  ofc we dont think so thats why we may speak about actual things like this one to feel ourselfs a bit more important than we are but history of the world is being written each minute and each second. all our minor actions without gathering worth nothing and gonna be washed out by waves of the time. its a little bit sad but better to think this way than belief in uniqueness and significance of each person which is going to be forver forgotten right after his death

What unnatural bullshit? What do you define as natural and by what standards?

Only bullshit I see here is this pile of crap you decided to dump on us in your post

[Dark_Blade]

the trouble is in sexual difference.

What unnatural bullshit? What do you define as natural and by what standards?

every healthy human  same as any other animal born to make a new generation and leave the world for life of this(and next) genration(s).
why is it standart? because reproduction is one of the main functions of the living organism... or in Gayropean schools teachers are not telling it?

pile of crap you decided to dump on us in your post

how come that if you dont like it - its a bullshit? i dont like to see things this way too but  its doesnt matter what we like or we dont, things are still going in their way. you dont give a fuck? mmm, okay. but if you dont give a fuck - why do you have something in your mind about it?

Conchita is an over-the-top reaction against people who demand control on the way people should look and act.

freedom from what are you getting when you are wearing what you  want?when you looks like you want? at the important things you will still act as government requires from you. even at your mind you are able and actually should do that what government wants from you. what does this freedom worth?

[Prpavi]

1.the trouble is in sexual difference. every healthy human  same as any other animal born to make a new generation and leave the world for life of this(and next) genration(s).
why is it standart? because reproduction is one of the main functions of the living organism... or in Gayropean schools teachers are not telling it?

2.how come that if you dont like it - its a bullshit? i dont like to see things this way too but  its doesnt matter what we like or we dont, things are still going in their way. you dont give a fuck? mmm, okay. but if you dont give a fuck - why do you have something in your mind about it?

1. What prevents gay people from reproduction?

2. I don't give a fuck what anybody wares or who or how they fuck as long as it's consensual, what I care about is retards like yourself trying to force their own "not natural" bullshit "facts" on people as arguments against homosexuals. What feels natural is natural, it's just sex and what feels good is good for that individual, not what you or who ever tells them.

 

[DonNicko]

Well, I think you can't blame countries where gays are incommon. For example in islamic countries or Russia or Chechnya, why people should blame them in their intolerance if they have other values. You won't find any gay in Chechnya, because it's forbidden by Qoran and Bible, it's sin because of which Soddom and Homora were burned.

[Dark_Blade]

1. because child cant be born from male. well ofcourse he may get it from some woman(but here is some troubles in relations between people. i think the woman wont be happy in this case... well if woman is selling this kind of service... well nuff said) or technically(this way is made of the since not just nature). so whats wrong with my statement?

2. fuck what you are getting pleasure from if its unnormal by the nature ffs. you live in society that have their own rules which are getting so many radical changes at last 100 years. in my opinion if people have such mind about 1000 years ago - we shouldnt born same as our parents probably(because without gathering people cannot do much). you are not saying a single argument why this fact is a bullshit. once you said about animals in some similar conversation. if you dont know - in animals world some homosexual actions works as hard insult to the victim, its not about pleasure.

I really cant get why people are trying to be individual when its more effective for progress to be gathered at the mind... well fucking egoists are thinking only about their own interests.

I'm not fussed with 'freedom' so much as intolerance, i know we all exist within accepted social norms to the point where right now you're being a generic stereotypical eastern european response and i'm being a generic western european stereotype.

'Freedom' is a relative term, intolerance is less so

stereotypes are not really informative because i belive most of people who i know dont give a fuck about it or maybe just disgusting. actually the most disgusting thing for me is how popular it became in the "high world". some homos are being posted as famous and respected persons even if there not a single reason to respect them. and pop-culture says that its not just normal to be gay, you should also proud of it o_O thats what i dislike. if you prefer men and you found a guy that you love - let it be... but do not show it for all the world ffs.

[Herezy92]

Ahahaha, if you guys think that homosexuality is dangerous for our future (because of  lack of reproduction) then go ahead, you are free to think it. 
(It's not like we need more humans in Earth right?)

And have a look at the past. (before the monotheistic religions)
In the old world (Europe/Asia).Sexuality was free and unchained, and Mankind never missed men & women to have a decent/very important reproduction ratio.

Everybody should be free to do what he wants if its not interfering/causing problems with your own life.

[Dark_Blade]

Ahahaha, if you guys think that homosexuality is dangerous for our future (because of  lack of reproduction) then go ahead, you are free to think it. 
(It's not like we need more humans in Earth right?)

And have a look at the past. (before the monotheistic religions)
In the old world (Europe/Asia).Sexuality was free and unchained, and Mankind never missed men & women to have a decent/very important reproduction ratio.

Everybody should be free to do what he wants if its not interfering/causing problems with your own life.

it does. its interfering in my mind and at this way it chaging my life and thats it! i dont want some information spam to change my life! but who is asking me? nobody. its because even when we are free - we are still dependent of each other. so what a point in trying to be free?

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Lmao, i don't even know where to start... so i won't

[Dark_Blade]

not pro-homosexual mentality and anit-himosexual mentality are different things. does russians are burning gays? nope. what about chocolate chip cookie? they did.
well however its just unnormal for society. that what is good for 51% of society should be good for everyone. thats how the fucking life in society works and there shouldnt be any exceptions because its pointless to fix the thing which isnt broken. they dont want to be ashamed just for their preferences? lets say i want to fap inside the class with 12 years children but for some reason i am going to be ashamed if i'll do it!D: why????  I am getting fun from it and i am not doing anything bad to anyone!!!!
my example is a bit incorrent but just a bit

[Herezy92]

It does. its interfering in my mind[...]

In your mind....
Try to kill someone. Justice will judge you guilty.
Try to think in your mind you are killing someone. You wont be punish.

You are free to think what you want, till you don't act.

What is in your mind do not interferes, with real-life.
(Tell me if one day you are going to be killed because someone thought at it )
So technically it doesn't have any impact in your life style.

i dont want some information spam to change my life!

Information spam?
I don't get it. Are you saying that the medias are trying to control your mind by spaming information with homosexual ideas?? (if yes tell me your country ) Gay-land ? 
Please explain me your point.

but who is asking me? nobody.

Who is asking you what ?   

its because even when we are free - we are still dependent of each other. so what a point in trying to be free?

Yes, we call this the society. Indeed we are all depending on each others.
So, for you, if someone is gay/lesbian, you can't relly on him? why?

But if you insist by saying "homosexuality is interfering in my life, we must do something" So for you, someone who is born homosexual will you force him to not be gay?

[Butan]

Human society inter-dependency will activate when there is a dire need of reproduction, atm the earth is over-populated so there is more incentive for exploration of sexual preferences.
The possibility to reproduce without natural intercourse, thanks to our technology, adds to the fact there is less natural necessity for natural mating.

If a comet hit earth or a pandemic wipe out most of the human race and all its infrastructure, homosexuals will start mating with the other sex like there is no tomorrow, else there will really be no tomorrow and we are really fucked (in the bad sense).

I dont see it happening, except if sterile intercourse becomes the ultimate norm and we culturally/psychologically/biologically forget how to have sex/babies. We are very far from this point.
There is lots of scenario where our race is extinguished and I dont think rampant homosexuality is the most plausible one.



A lot of things disgust me, but then I just dont do it. As long as noone is forcing me to mate with something I dont want to, or forcing me to watch them do it, I dont mind.
If gays take over the world and I have no potential sex partner, and same sex male people make out in public all the time, and I lose my hands in an accident and dont have enough money to buy prostetic ones, I'm going to be very sad and angry though 

[Herezy92]

Human society inter-dependency will activate when there is a dire need of reproduction, atm the earth is over-populated so there is more incentive for exploration of sexual preferences.
The possibility to reproduce without natural intercourse, thanks to our technology, adds to the fact there is less natural necessity for natural mating.

If a comet hit earth or a pandemic wipe out most of the human race and all its infrastructure, homosexuals will start mating with the other sex like there is no tomorrow, else there will really be no tomorrow and we are really fucked (in the bad sense).

I dont see it happening, except if sterile intercourse becomes the ultimate norm and we culturally/psychologically/biologically forget how to have sex. We are very far from this point.
There is lots of scenario where our race is extinguished and I dont think rampant homosexuality is the most plausible one.



A lot of things disgust me, but then I just dont do it. As long as noone is forcing me to mate with something I dont want to, or forcing me to watch them do it, I dont mind.
If gays take over the world and I have no potential sex partner, and same sex male people make out in public all the time, and I lose my hands in an accident and dont have enough money to buy prostetic ones, I'm going to be very sad and angry though 

This needs more than a +1
It's need a SUPER FROG +1

EDIT :  HESKEYTIME +1 too

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