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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2014, 08:44:46 pm »
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I think Tydeus(?) made a big mistake with buffing many 110-120 reach 2h to ridiculous speeds. Especially when compared to 1h. Whenever I play swashbuckler I feel outclassed on all fronts now, not even the sweet 1h animations can prevent the playstyle from feeling pointless compared to 2h. A 96 speed Miaodao and a 97 speed Nordic Champion Sword, hahwat? Other weapons that I find have ridiculously good speed/length/damage ratios in the 2h category are the Greatsword, Sword of War, Flambard, Dadao. I thought he did a 1 speed buff accross the board, but he might have done more to 2h.

Just because NA is too retarded to realize that long 2h weapons are fucking awesome doesn't mean these weapons were bad. Now they completely outshine comparable weapons in the other categories. With the German and Danish on 91 speed, all the other greatswords should be 92-93 and the Miaodao should be 95 at most with the Dadao being 93 with higher weight and 2-3 more cut damage than the Miaodao, as the model suggests.

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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2014, 08:48:54 pm »
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Katana at least doesn't hit as hard. Has that nasty ghostreach as well because of the curve, but still. The speed is not so much of a problem simply because the BS/HBS got that, too.

+3 katana have 41 cut,it is like you get hit with +3 poleaxe. it is fast and doing a lot of dmg.

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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2014, 09:37:32 pm »
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Here we go again. I am just gonna use the sentence, which seems to fit every balancing discussion: ''Get a shield''.
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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2014, 09:47:09 pm »
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(Disregard the second longsword caption, it's a two handed sword or something since he's holding it with both hands while not blocking/attacking, but not my point)

Nerf 2h! But especially Dadao/Miadao. Actually, just Dadao/Miadao should suffice. Nerf it into oblivion. European Knights using this shit all over the place on EU2 and it makes my eyes bleed evertim.

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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2014, 09:49:08 pm »
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I think Tydeus(?) made a big mistake with buffing many 110-120 reach 2h to ridiculous speeds. Especially when compared to 1h. Whenever I play swashbuckler I feel outclassed on all fronts now, not even the sweet 1h animations can prevent the playstyle from feeling pointless compared to 2h. A 96 speed Miaodao and a 97 speed Nordic Champion Sword, hahwat? Other weapons that I find have ridiculously good speed/length/damage ratios in the 2h category are the Greatsword, Sword of War, Flambard, Dadao. I thought he did a 1 speed buff accross the board, but he might have done more to 2h.

Just because NA is too retarded to realize that long 2h weapons are fucking awesome doesn't mean these weapons were bad. Now they completely outshine comparable weapons in the other categories. With the German and Danish on 91 speed, all the other greatswords should be 92-93 and the Miaodao should be 95 at most with the Dadao being 93 with higher weight and 2-3 more cut damage than the Miaodao, as the model suggests.

I don't see why 1 handers should be as good as 2 handers. They are 1 slot (or 0) and allow you to take ranged weapons and/or a shield

Not that I think 1 handers by themselves are bad in any case, they are still very good

If 2 handers are too good them buff polearms, not 1 hand. That just buffs ranged and 1 hand w/ shield is already really strong.
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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2014, 09:56:22 pm »
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I would prefer the old stats, but many things were buffed


Miaodao
weapon length: 115
weight: 2.8
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 115
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2014, 09:59:19 pm »
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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2014, 10:03:24 pm »
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I don't think internal 2 hand balance is too bad, but poles should get something for losing their micro stun on each hit. Maybe +1 more speed for weapons under 95 speed
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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2014, 10:06:09 pm »
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They already received +1 speed, unless you mean another +1 speed on top of the one they already received a few months ago?

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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2014, 10:06:39 pm »
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I would prefer the old stats, but many things were buffed


Miaodao
weapon length: 115
weight: 2.8
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 115
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
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These were the late 2011 stats.

Which would make them complete garbage compared to greatswords.
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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2014, 10:10:43 pm »
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They already received +1 speed, unless you mean another +1 speed on top of the one they already received a few months ago?

Yep, or give them back the small stun
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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2014, 10:18:55 pm »
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christ please no

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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2014, 10:38:41 pm »
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Give them run.

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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2014, 10:44:07 pm »
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I would give all my looms (all 13 ones) for a heavy nerf of katana.  EU2 is spam feast anyway.
See what you have done, Sinisstra and Porthos? Good job guys.  :evil:

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Re: Secret footage of a masterrace gathering on EU2!
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2014, 11:06:40 pm »
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I would give all my looms (all 13 ones) for a heavy nerf of katana.  EU2 is spam feast anyway.

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