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Include the Overhead Animation for Spears?

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Re: Overhead Animation for Spears
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2011, 06:43:00 pm »
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Epic bump!

This animation has now been included in the recent update for Fire&Sword, and I must say it is perfect! And spears have crush-through so now they aren't useless in duels anymore.

Please everyone check the changelog (and game if you bought it), theres is so much improvement in this Fire&Sword patch, and it feels very balanced in PvP and very fluid!

Of course I hate guns, but I really want Fire&Sword ruleset for Warband or at least some elements.
What do you think? Perhaps starting a new thread to discuss this :) cheers!

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?543322-Mount-amp-Blade-With-Fire-and-Sword-Changelog-1.141

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Re: Overhead Animation for Spears
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2011, 07:15:22 pm »
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And spears have crush-through so now they aren't useless in duels anymore.

Wait what?

I don't play wFaS but...

1. Since when were spears useless in duels? O.o

2. Why the hell do they have CT???

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Re: Overhead Animation for Spears
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2011, 08:48:07 pm »
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Wait what?

I don't play wFaS but...

1. Since when were spears useless in duels? O.o

2. Why the hell do they have CT???
1. He is talking about the spears in WFaS which are basically short pikes (lance length if I remember correctly. Around 180-200) so they only had two attack directions. They also weren't that fast either so he is mainly talking about the long spear. Although it would also be better if the overstab was given to the spear/warspear/etc too since it look much better and is more natural than the overhead spear attack now. And yes the long spear/pike is useless in duels. The long spear CAN be doable but only against a stupid or new player.

2. Crush Through in WFaS is a lot less effective and happens almost never. They gave it to all 2handers too btw, and most of the polearms (pitchforks and the one duel polearm) don't have it. Mainly pikes, halberd and 2handers have it. Never seen a crushtrough happen yet though, and I play piker/2hander in SP and most of the time in MP. That being said, there are no "dedicated" crushtough weapons like a maul or something with high weight that can actually make a crushtrough happen.
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Re: Overhead Animation for Spears
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2011, 11:47:40 pm »
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btw an overarm stab for spears would be a nerf as you cant spin thrust it (all overheads are unaimable on the z axis unlike stabs)

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Re: Overhead Animation for Spears
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2011, 12:34:39 am »
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btw an overarm stab for spears would be a nerf as you cant spin thrust it (all overheads are unaimable on the z axis unlike stabs)

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This is not the case with the warband engine.

Don't go listing off baseless facts unless you have some sort of proof to build your case.
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Re: Overhead Animation for Spears
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2011, 01:25:49 am »
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You bitch cuz you cant exploit with some stupid game mechanic? And yes spear+shield has only one attack so you cant win any duels period.

You are all a bunch of pessimistic powerplayers, I will go back to Fire&Sword cheers.

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Re: Overhead Animation for Spears
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2011, 04:53:57 am »
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I agree with the above poster, shield and spear should have underhanded thrust and overhead thrust. Hoplites would be quite viable and more useful than stabbing repeatedly at a chokepoint waiting for blind people.

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Re: Overhead Animation for Spears
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2011, 09:19:12 pm »
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But if you do an over-hand stab, it should be blocked from above and if we get a 1handed over-hand stab, we should get a 2handed stab for pike and others.
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