Great a city to defend ! Oh wait....

[vipere]

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I really hope your bravery will be rewarded !

[Switchtense]

I love how half of EU cries about UIF ruining strategus, then such plonkers attack at the most fucking idiotic times during the night themselves.

If you are scared that defenders show up, then get some more bloody troops and better gear if otherwise you have no chance of winning.

(I do realise that the battles might have been pushed a bit further into the night, but the original assaults still did occure at ridiculous times)

[Butan]

I dont really like those battles, it makes me want to go defense and try to defeat an army that, at its size, should be defeated.

But I shade my thoughts with the background information that UIF is having a pretty easy time on the map (for various and well known reasons, no need to debate the matter again), and if the non-UIF can artificially conquer more highly defensible fiefs than they should have had the capacity to, then thats a pretty good thing for strategus round 5 battles to come.


I just hope that when those fiefs are besieged by other factions in the future, they will have troops/gear and a correct leadership.


Though, we should all be shamed to have a strategus balance which requires that cheating around the battletime have become a necessary-OK tool of conquest. I hope it will be completely abolished when all AI fiefs are down.

[Switchtense]

Even though what you said is true Butan, I still will never sign up FOR the attacking faction in such battles.

Strat needs to be made as much fun as possible now more than ever. Whining about UIF ruining strategus, and then doing everything possible to spoil the fun even more does not deserve any support, no matter of what kind.

[Butan]

Well, I'm not pretending I will change those battles to be made on proper time, I'm only a player  so I calm myself thinking of "what good will come out of that bad". And I think its going to be good if 2 conditions are met : people dont just turtle in their shamefully flag captured castles/cities + noone does night battles against human-controlled fiefs.

I trust the "internet shame" to work just fine into stopping night battles becoming a "respectable option" when against humans.
Not so sure about the turtling: crime is a good tool, but it just mean that you set garrison fiefs to low prosperity - average/low price and keep buying the S&D every 2-3 days and you're fine. The 1800 wave function is still there and its very useful, but when the gear quality will be balanced between UIF - non-UIF, turtling will become a viable option again.

Frankly, the next step I'm impatient to behold, is UIF invading non-UIF properly garrisonned castles/cities and watch 2 things :

- whats the battletime they are aiming for ? (they have a pretty legit pretext to do night battles too, namely "vengeance" and "equal opportunity" )
- whats the roster going to look like ? (lets hope both can perpetually sustain a 50v50 good quality roster, if not it will lead to some issues and tears)

[Switchtense]

I trust Hetman enough to start his battles at a decent time for EU.

I do not know the DRZ guys enough to say the same for them.

UIF does not really need night battles anyway, even when the gear is more or less balanced they still have way better rosters.
Even if a faction has nice gear, after 1 or 2 battles of being stomped nobody will sign up anymore and then gg.

Especially OdE now that their reputation has been suffering quite a bit, OOTQ was never really present so it seemed, and Montesa, fuck knows who they are

[Algarn]

There is a choice. Trying like idiots to take a city with 80 defenders, 1/4 are archers, fail, wasting gear and troops, and finally get crushed on flat grounds by Grey Order or Druzs, or taking a fortified place when everyone is sleeping with low casualties to have a slight chance to resist hard enough to make invaders get back to where they come from. Don't cry about grey order being too strong on foot, make them attack a castle and see their forces annoyed by walls and archers on top of them. It's purely a tactical choice.

[Fips]

That's exactly the reason why an Anti-UIF with every other clan in it except UIF themselves, will never work. On the one hand calling UIF pussies for having their alliance and then doing this crap. I'd rather have a nice fight then getting free castles due to time.

As much as i hate kinngrimm, at least he attacked the castle at primetime so he had to put up a real fight. Everyone attacking early morning or in the middle of the freakin night is even below the UIF carebears. At least they have the decency to attack at a time where people are not at work or sleeping.

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[Algarn]

Call me an hypocrite, but if you want to be wiped like an idiot with 20 archers in front of you, no equipment, and stuff like that, just do it. Some people just prefer fighting with some chances to win instead of a slaughter like Stalingrad with a guy dying every second. Strat had never been something with morale or whatever you can call it, it's eating or being eaten spawnraped by another thing bigger than you.

[_RXN_]

Our first attack on a castle, prime time, light armors, 80 defenders, a very little chance to win, a freaking lot of defending archers, like Stalingrad, bla bla bla. We had only 20 tickets left on the screen but we won, and it was the most interesting siege in this Strat for us.

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[Algarn]

and it was the most interesting siege in this Strat for us.

If you want interesting fights, why don't you give non UIF factions a truce before a war to prepare ?

[ARN_]

If you want interesting fights, why don't you give non UIF factions a truce before a war to prepare ?

They are DRZ, they don't do diplomacy...

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

They should halve the number of fiefs on the EU side to prompt more competition.

The constant trade rape would thus allow the NA master race to conqueror the UIF with little issue.

Can I get a "make it happen!"?

[Butan]

If we were to do this there would be nowhere to hide from UIF Frank    and it would prompt more internal fighting among non-UIF, and more desertion when UIF strikes 

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

If we were to do this there would be nowhere to hide from UIF Frank    and it would prompt more internal fighting among non-UIF, and more desertion when UIF strikes 

You are a probably right. Sadly you are most probably correct.