Banned at Crpg for Leeching?

[Sir_Frank]

Dear reader

I got banned today, I am unsure why I got banned? I believe the admin "Patoson" (Sorry if that was spelled wrong) banned me. If this was indeed for leeching then I do wish to say that going afk for 2 minutes is not against the rules of the  server. There have been people being afk from the start of that map that did not receive a ban. mere clarification from the admin would be much appreciated. I still stand my point that I have broken no server rules.

Thank you for reading

Frank_Of_Brack   

[Patoson]

I already kicked you for leeching before and you kept leeching. If you have to go AFK for so long, join spectator, untick "ready to spawn" (if you have to leave right before spawning), or leave the server, please.

DTV is not a free ticket to leech while the rest of the team gets you xp and gold.

You were banned for 1 hour, so it will expire in half an hour more or less.

[Sir_Frank]

There is no rule against going afk for a minute Patoson. There is a clear difference between staying every round or going away for 1 minute. I even spoke to you in that same ROUND. Is it still called leeching when no money is being made from not playing a single minute?

EDIT: Could an admin put the chat logs of me saying my last words in global before being banned. This will clearly proof the unjust of this ban.

[Patoson]

I've just checked the log, and you didn't write anything, but you did kill a bot between my warning and the banning, which I did not see. I just saw you looking like AFK most of the time, and, if you think it wasn't a good reason for the ban, consider it a punishment for how you ended the previous map.

[Sir_Frank]

What punishment? You can't make up a new reason for the ban because the last one backfired on you. Please do post the logs I am very interested to know how long the timespan is to become a leacher in patoson his eyes.

Patoson if you admit your mistake and say sorry, I will drop this thread

[Algarn]

Patoson is actually one of the best admins, and always do his job the right way. If you got banned, you are the only one to blame, so, instead of being a shithead on forums , follow the rules next time.

[Sir_Frank]

Patoson is actually one of the best admins, and always do his job the right way. If you got banned, you are the only one to blame, so, instead of being a shithead on forums , follow the rules next time.

Please refrain from posting on this thread if it doesn't involve anything that has to do with the ban, thank you

[Patoson]

On the previous map to this ban, you were the last one alive. After some time searching the bot, you see it, but decide to jump off the wall and commit suicide, making us lose. If you think that's not a good reason...

I let it slide at that time, and, when I saw you leeching again, I banned you (and I had already kicked you before for leeching).

Again, if you have to go AFK so much, go spectator, please.

[Sir_Frank]

On the previous map to this ban, you were the last one alive. After some time searching the bot, you see it, but decide to jump off the wall and commit suicide, making us lose. If you think that's not a good reason...

I let it slide at that time, and, when I saw you leeching again, I banned you (and I had already kicked you before for leeching).

Again, if you have to go AFK so much, go spectator, please.

But you didn't ban as you just said yourself. You banned me for leaching that I clearly did not. Please post the logs to back-up the truth.

Also to clarify that was an accident my Z key got stuck so I fell off the wall. Killing yourself isn't against the rules is it?

[Patoson]

You jumped running forward... lol

[Sir_Frank]

To try and evade from falling off the wall. What else was there for me to do Patoson? I am really sorry but these things happen every now and then.

Now could you post the logs please, thank you.

[_Tamra_]

Tamra_the_Grey:
First of all you can be sure that Patoson knows what leeching is and when somebody actually is leeching, and he definitely didn't banned/kicked you just because you went afk for a minute.

And you clearly did suicide on that map;
You saw the stucked bot down the ladders; quite funny how you tried several times to jump over the invisible wall, and when you realized its not working you just jumped down on the other side -  I was wondering why you didn't get banned at this point already...

The ban reason may not only be leeching, its griefing too.
Kinda weird that you doing such a topic about a 1 hour ban anyway.

[Sir_Frank]

Tamra_the_Grey:
First of all you can be sure that Patoson knows what leeching is and when somebody actually is leeching, and he definitely didn't banned/kicked you just because you went afk for a minute.

And you clearly did suicide on that map;
You saw the stucked bot down the ladders; quite funny how you tried several times to jump over the invisible wall, and when you realized its not working you just jumped down on the other side -  I was wondering why you didn't get banned at this point already...

The ban reason may not only be leeching, its griefing too.
Kinda weird that you doing such a topic about a 1 hour ban anyway.

Please refrain from posting on this thread if it doesn't involve anything that has to do with the ban, thank you

I got banned because I was leeching as clearly stated by Patoson himself. Also if you would read the thread you would have seen Patoson admiting himself that I killed somebody during the time I was warned to be banned.

But if you can prove otherwise please do post the logs.

[_Tamra_]

Please refrain from posting on this thread if it doesn't involve anything that has to do with the ban, thank you

I got banned because I was leeching as clearly stated by Patoson himself. Also if you would read the thread you would have seen Patoson admiting himself that I killed somebody during the time I was warned to be banned.

But if you can prove otherwise please do post the logs.

Jezus guy...
I was there, I saw what happened; So I am kinda involved in this useless case, especially because you blaming one of our few EU-DTV-admins.

I've just checked the log, and you didn't write anything, but you did kill a bot between my warning and the banning, which I did not see. I just saw you looking like AFK most of the time, and, if you think it wasn't a good reason for the ban, consider it a punishment for how you ended the previous map.

Just always reply if an admin asks for you.

You got banned for leeching before and griefing, I'm sure this is acceptable

[Tennenoth]

Logs:

[15:44:33] kill,Frank_Of_Brack,Bandit,melee,Maul,hb_spine
[15:45:46] kill,Bandit,NIKI_HRE,melee,Mighty Great Maul,hb_thigh_l
[15:46:25] kill,Nomad,dagu807,melee,Red Tassel Spear,hb_calf_l
[15:49:46] msg,[ADMIN][Patoson] dont leech Frank
[15:49:55] kill,Frank_Of_Brack,Nomad,ranged,Tatar Bow,Tatar Arrows,hb_head
[15:50:21] msg,Patoson banned player Frank_Of_Brack for 1h. Reason: Leeching.

A 5 minute gap, not the same wave (I don't quite know how DTV works, but I assume that bot change, i.e. Bandit to Nomad means you respawn)
So, that means at the switchover, you were standing around for 3 minutes, 21 seconds (someone correct that, I'm probably wrong) before you were told off.

Now, that's the logs alone, and personally, having stood around for that long, and given that you were kicked earlier, I personally, wouldn't have bothered warning you again, I'd have booted you right off the bat. Just because you came around, doesn't mean you're not breaking the rules.

As Patoson says, if you need to go AFK, go to spectator, especially since you were kicked previously for it. Once is understand, twice is just pushing your luck.

My own person opinion, the ban was reasonable. 1 Hour is nothing.