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About "Cleaver"
« on: April 07, 2014, 03:12:23 pm »
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So with this patch, you added "Bonus against shields" to cleaver.
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Now let's test it please. All of you have these at home right ?
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Hit as many as you want,if you can break the chopping block with your cleaver,i'll be convinced that you can actually break steel shield with it in cRPG.

Seriously looking for a logical explanation on this from the dev who added it.
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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2014, 03:20:38 pm »
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...and if the cleaver breaks before the chopping block add "Bonus against cleaver" to all shields  :D
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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2014, 03:23:23 pm »
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Mod is dead, an overused item was slightly buffed :lol:
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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2014, 03:30:01 pm »
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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2014, 03:49:45 pm »
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Been using it as a sidearm for my 1h for a while now. I welcome this buff with open arms.

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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 03:50:57 pm »
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I used to have one loomed, 34 cut and crazy fast swings ain't nothing to fuck with. Now it can beat one of its only weaknesses (the other is the fact you need to be french kissing your target in order for swings to hit).
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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2014, 04:01:14 pm »
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Swedish_Chef has been roleplaying his namesake for as long as I can remember (apron, cleaver, etc.). He even uses the round buckler that looks like a mixing bowl. Dude tops scoreboard with decent frequency, and he hits like a truck with his +3 Cleaver. If anything, he deserved this buff just for sticking with his "weak" RP setup for so long.

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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2014, 04:07:19 pm »
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Blame me for the change. The cleavers in your pic are normal 20c cleavers. 30c japanese steel cleavers can perform these miraculous acts easily.


It's the shortest buyable 1h in the game outside of stones. Compared to the knife, 4 speed, 9 length, and no stab for 2 cut was a poor tradeoff, and there was no leeway to buff any stats because imo 35 cut would be even more ridiculous. It was the short falchion's ugly stepsister. For 200g it's really good, though. It may be as good as the hand axe I guess.

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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2014, 04:29:46 pm »
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Even if it did 50000c, 35 length is pretty bad.

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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2014, 04:55:36 pm »
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Swedish_Chef has been roleplaying his namesake for as long as I can remember (apron, cleaver, etc.). He even uses the round buckler that looks like a mixing bowl. Dude tops scoreboard with decent frequency, and he hits like a truck with his +3 Cleaver. If anything, he deserved this buff just for sticking with his "weak" RP setup for so long.


Fuck out of here. With a shield any weapon with that is a pain in the balls and hits like a truck.  Shields are trash and they are never going back to what they were. The only thing the do to them is make them offensive which is useless.  Why change the shitty knightly shields to 5? No sense. Some fucktard will pop on and says shields are fine as he goes back to his pole arm or 2h bundle of sticks.
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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2014, 04:56:55 pm »
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Even if it did 50000c, 35 length is pretty bad.

Again, with a shield this weapon is viable as fuck. The swings you can get off because of its length are great
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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2014, 05:06:39 pm »
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Fuck out of here. With a shield any weapon with that is a pain in the balls and hits like a truck.  Shields are trash and they are never going back to what they were. The only thing the do to them is make them offensive which is useless.  Why change the shitty knightly shields to 5? No sense. Some fucktard will pop on and says shields are fine as he goes back to his pole arm or 2h bundle of sticks.

I can usually decipher Dread-speak, but this one has me scratching my head. Shields suck but the cleaver is OP if used with a shield?

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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2014, 05:09:21 pm »
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This mod is dying without Fasader :(

I cant believe myself that i agree on fasaderp the borek monster was way better than current item balancers.

Btw give me 1 logical answer how can two Americans dudes can balance a game which is about EU medieval war.

We all have culturel relation between sword or medieval we forced to read those on our education systems but Americans have no idea wtf is it.This is not a humiliation we have no idea how mcdonalds can be meal as well.

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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2014, 05:35:49 pm »
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Blame me for the change. The cleavers in your pic are normal 20c cleavers. 30c japanese steel cleavers can perform these miraculous acts easily.


It's the shortest buyable 1h in the game outside of stones. Compared to the knife, 4 speed, 9 length, and no stab for 2 cut was a poor tradeoff, and there was no leeway to buff any stats because imo 35 cut would be even more ridiculous. It was the short falchion's ugly stepsister. For 200g it's really good, though. It may be as good as the hand axe I guess.
Lol ,so you are saying that it is a "Traditional" medieval Japanese "shieldbreaker" (Fact = No one ever used shield in isle of Japan ever) Cleaver instead of basic butcher's cleaver ?
Tell me what you are smoking i'll buy that instead of regular weed from now on.

I did not open this thread because i find stats of the cleaver OP or something i just opened it to state it is plain stupidity to add that feature to simple cleaver.

As I told to Tydeus before, this is not a MMORPG game where you change stats to balance the game.
This is a medieval rpg game and realism comes before balance in this. If you do otherwise it just looks retarded.

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Re: About "Cleaver"
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2014, 05:43:05 pm »
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Lol ,so you are saying that it is a "Traditional" medieval Japanese "shieldbreaker" (Fact = No one ever used shield in isle of Japan ever) Cleaver instead of basic butcher's cleaver ?
Tell me what you are smoking i'll buy that instead of regular weed from now on.

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