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Balanced worth this?
« on: April 07, 2014, 12:51:05 pm »
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Persian Battle Axe
weapon length: 95
weight: 4.7
difficulty: 17
speed rating: 92
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 49 cut
slots: 2
Unbalanced
Bonus against Shield


Persian War Axe
weapon length: 90
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 16
speed rating: 93
weapon length: 90
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 40 cut
slots: 2
Bonus against Shield
Secondary Mode

from a small leap of 5.5k-7k you receive  9 cut and 1.2 weight

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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2014, 01:09:37 pm »
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really? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2014, 01:20:21 pm »
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The Persian War Axe has an amazing secondary mode, isn't unbalanced, and has 1 more speed...
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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2014, 01:22:31 pm »
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Amazing secondary mode huh? even with that, and 1 more speed i think 3 or 4 damage buff would be needed.
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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2014, 01:26:57 pm »
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Amazing secondary mode doesn't really matter when you have 40c anyway. And I think this weapon should have stayed unbalanced. I don't feel it needed a nerf or a buff (maybe a small buff), but this sounds like a huge nerf.

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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2014, 01:35:43 pm »
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40 cut isn't very much in terms of how much pierce or blunt damage is needed to outperform that amount. Nor is it very much when you consider how many times you have to hit someone with loomed plate armor if you only have 40 cut. On the other hand, the alt mode when loomed* does 50% more effective damage to 70 body armor than the cut side does. This makes a huge difference. Even with a "3 or 4" damage buff to the cut side, it still would be less effective than the alt mode on 70 body armor.
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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2014, 03:58:28 pm »
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Balanced vs unbalanced is a pretty big deal. Compare the bardiche to the long bardiche (long bardiche is pole not 2H but my point still stands).
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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2014, 04:48:01 pm »
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40 cut isn't very much in terms of how much pierce or blunt damage is needed to outperform that amount. Nor is it very much when you consider how many times you have to hit someone with loomed plate armor if you only have 40 cut. On the other hand, the alt mode when loomed* does 50% more effective damage to 70 body armor than the cut side does. This makes a huge difference. Even with a "3 or 4" damage buff to the cut side, it still would be less effective than the alt mode on 70 body armor.

Well yes, but there is the inherent penalty of having to switch modes according to armor. Additionally, the length and speed of this weapon in primary mode doesn't really justify getting this instead of a morningstar, because even against naked enemies you won't have a much easier time with 40c than with 38p.

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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2014, 05:09:27 pm »
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Morningstar is shorter and unbalanced.
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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2014, 05:21:52 pm »
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40 cut isn't very much in terms of how much pierce or blunt damage is needed to outperform that amount. Nor is it very much when you consider how many times you have to hit someone with loomed plate armor if you only have 40 cut. On the other hand, the alt mode when loomed* does 50% more effective damage to 70 body armor than the cut side does. This makes a huge difference. Even with a "3 or 4" damage buff to the cut side, it still would be less effective than the alt mode on 70 body armor.

Oh damn, i guess i just underestimate secondary modes..
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Re: Balanced worth this?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2014, 05:25:06 pm »
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Secondary mode is 32p, 92 speed. It was buffed by 3, but speed was decreased by 1.