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[Leshma]

Depleted uranium is depleted of radioactivity and therefore not chemical weapon. You can ask Pentagon million times and this is the answer they'll always give you.

Imagine if they told you simple truth that depleted uranium is actual nuclear waste from nuclear powerplants which makes it extremely cheap plus it is very effective at breaking thick armor. Cheap and effective, better lie about it not being environmental hazard just like Ruskies lie about Sarin attacks in Syria. Because coating missile in radioactive waste isn't like spreading radioactive waste all over the place.

Please stop with chlorine gas nonsense, no one capable is using that shit, this isn't WWI anymore. Reasons being it stinks and is yellow-green color therefore kinda easy to spot. Sarin is 500 times more effective, odorless and colourless. I dunno why Assad ever used chlorine when he has access to Russian produced Sarin.

[Asheram]

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[Drunken_sailor]

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[Algarn]

Hate to break it to you (those who defend the strikes), but bombing the syria because of their use of chemical weapons is just PR to me. If they really were serious human rights, they'd do something about Saudi Arabia using white phosphorus bombs, or in fact, stop fucking selling them weapons in the first place. It just amazes me that once a journalist asked the french defense minister about french weapons being used in Yemen by the saudis to commit war crimes, and she just answered that these same weapons weren't meant to be used. We westerners aren't the good guys, our governments are just there for the cash to be made, or for influence games.

[Turkhammer]

Depleted uranium is depleted of radioactivity and therefore not chemical weapon. You can ask Pentagon million times and this is the answer they'll always give you.

Imagine if they told you simple truth that depleted uranium is actual nuclear waste from nuclear powerplants which makes it extremely cheap plus it is very effective at breaking thick armor. Cheap and effective, better lie about it not being environmental hazard just like Ruskies lie about Sarin attacks in Syria. Because coating missile in radioactive waste isn't like spreading radioactive waste all over the place.

Please stop with chlorine gas nonsense, no one capable is using that shit, this isn't WWI anymore. Reasons being it stinks and is yellow-green color therefore kinda easy to spot. Sarin is 500 times more effective, odorless and colourless. I dunno why Assad ever used chlorine when he has access to Russian produced Sarin.

It actually isn't spreading radioactivity all over the place.  The levels of U235 is much lower in DU than in naturally occuring uranium.  DUs radiation, alpha and beta particles, are blocked by skin and clothing.  The gamma radiation is very low.  DU external to the body does not present a hazard.  If it enters the body via metal slivers or inhalation of pulverized material, it may present a long term health hazard.  It has chemical toxicity in large doses but so does lead, tungsten and copper and many metals.

[Westwood]

We westerners aren't the good guys, our governments are just there for the cash to be made, or for influence games.

These aren't mutually exclusive :^)

[Xant]

I dunno why Assad ever used chlorine when he has access to Russian produced Sarin.

Because he didn't. Why would he do a chemical strike when he knows what it'll lead to? It's a false flag op by his opposition, Assad isn't going to use chemical weapons for the lulz (he's been doing a good job of killing far more civilians in a civilized, conventional manner) when he knows he'll get his shit bombed by NATO -- for absolutely no benefit. Meanwhile for his enemies in the region, all they have to do is spill some chemicals to call down a few hundred cruise missiles on Assad.

[njames89]

lol heskey I bet you think those kids really got shot up at sandy hook and the frogs aren't turning gay. Get woke.

[Bittersteel]

nicely done arguing your own points heskey

another gem:

The minorities are ruining my life so much I had to shovel a rink on the lake and spend the weekend skating and drinking beer.

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Oberyn was right. We've made a terrible mistake.

[Oberyn]

Heskey wholesale swallowing the basic neo-liberal worldview and "facts" pushed simultaneously by every regressive news outlet and now advocating for military action in Syria, IMAGINE MY SHOCK. Nice to see you're still the same easily manipulated retard as always. I remember you not caring terribly overmuch about the fanatical "rebels" and their murderous rampages in Syria, that have been happening for years, but Assad "gasses" (third time's the charm boys, not like this is the first time this Cassus Beli has been attempted) a few dozen people and here come the hypocritical morons going THINK OF TEH CHILRENS. Yeah, don't show the beheadings and crucifixions and literal genocides on minorities, that just emboldens and helps the ebil terrorists, but we must have elaborate descriptions of the effects of this GASP WMD and pictures of poow wittle children suffering plastered all over the place. Don't think about it too hard Heskey, I'm sure it's absolutely a massive coincidence and not deliberate.

When we're continuously flooded by millions of "refugees" from the world over that have nothing to do with Syria we'll have the same absolute fucking tards whining that we must own the responsability for it  and we deserve it, ebil ebil warmongering westerners that we are.

[Oberyn]

Our "leaders" in the West care about one thing and one thing only, removal of Assad, as has been made clear to anyone that's followed the situation in Syria for YEARS. All the whining about the morality and ethics of of the supposed "gassing" is nothing but surface level manipulation manufactured for retards. Again, it's not the first time this story is propagated by our media, but it's the first time the useful idiots seem to give a shit. Oh yeah chemical weapons oooooh such fearful WMD's, that totally explains our countries's geopolitical position and maneuvers in Syria, not anything else at all. You must be really exceptional to think France, the UK, the US and oh yeah ISRAEL have absolutely no interest beyond "empathy". We were sure super empathetic over the jihadist "rebels", to the point Israel openly admits to protecting and providing aid to Al-Qaeda proxies in the syrian civil war.

The "ebil warmongering west" was sarcasm, and you must be even dumber than I thought if you think the same soyboy morons now whining that we must do something for TEH CHILRENS won't be the same voices crying about muh compassion and muh poor martyred refugees when it comes times to, yet again, abuse the pathological empathy that is the baseline political state of the basic bitch apathetic navel-gazing westerner.

[SixThumbs]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

...while the CIA program ultimately failed in its objective of removing Assad from power, it was hardly "bootless": "The program pumped many hundreds of millions of dollars to many dozens of militia groups. One knowledgeable official estimates that the CIA-backed fighters may have killed or wounded 100,000 Syrian soldiers and their allies over the past four years."

I like how the journalist somehow tries to portray giving "hundreds of millions of [tax] dollars" to questionable [moderate] "militias" was a good thing even though the main objective wasn't achieved.

[Oberyn]

No see it makes perfect sense, we have to strike against Assad because of his terrible military capabilities that may fall in the hands of the fanatical jihadists we've been funding to overthrow him. It would be horrible to think what these barbarians might do with such an arsenal! The perfect time to strike is now that the war is practically done and these dangerous "rebels" almost been eradicated by Assad's regime. 100% logic.

[Sandersson Jankins]

Trump notoriously eager to be more deeply involved in Middle-Eastern conflicts, and equally-famous for being eager to worsen relations with Russia.

I dont agree with the conspiracy theorists on this one. For it to be faked by Syrian rebels you have to rely on France, UK and US intelligence all independently reaching the same wrong conclusion, for it to be faked by one of the western powers lying to the others that relies on the others not noticing or caring that they've been tricked into taking military action or being convinced enough by their own intelligence that it was genuine. And there's no benefit for the nations taking part. If the agenda was trying to oust Assad or change the course of the war the strikes were never going to achieve that.

So what's the agenda? What's the big hidden benefit for Trump, Macron and May to fire missiles at just a couple of sites in the territory of a Russian ally? The only bonus outcome I'm seeing is that Jeremy Corbyn's reaction is losing any vestiges of support from his party and the general public.

So there's that secret agenda, or the obvious fact that the entrenched militants in Douma surrendered within 24 hours of the chemical attack. Hmmm, why would Assad possibly use chemical weapons...

unsure if any other sources have come out, but the only primary source in the beginning was the White Helmets outfit, funded by USAID money and founded by an ex-MI6 cunt. 2013, 2014, and 2016 alleged chemical attacks from the regime have been debunked to my satisfaction, would be willing to track down the analysis i read if you'd like. even the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (literally one dude in the UK that hasn't been in Syria since 2010 btw) which generally comes down on the side of the opposition has said that all deaths were due to dust inhalation, suffocation, and crushing deaths.

Jaish-Al-Islam didn't want to be moved to Idlib terrorist governate because HTS (2018 al qaeda) would kick the SHIT out of them there and they know it.

doesn't bother me if you won't trust some random-ass uncredentialed dubiously-cited blog, but its the best collection of, say, "counter-narrative" stuff with intelligent albeit blood-sucking lib/socialist commenters. http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/04/syria-any-us-strike-will-lead-to-escalation.html#more

[Oberyn]

@Oberyn Maybe you should stop following what the situation was 'for YEARS' then and follow what the situation is right now. The West has basically given up trying to remove Assad from power

lol

I do give a shit that an unstable country is producing and stockpiling these weapons. A country that nearly fell under full IS control. You dont need to be an edge-lord to know that's a bad thing.

Imagine how disconected from the reality of the situation someone must be to unironically make this arguement. The country we wilfully destabilized and plunged into a civil war is dangerous because it's unstable so must endeavour to openly move militarily against it, as if the blatant proxy wars fully backed by our wahhabist "allies" weren't obvious enough. Yeah I wonder why you'd want to only focus on the present situation and not the chain of events and context that led to it. Couldn't possibly be that it's because you're totally ignorant of it or anything, no, it's just the rational and pragmatic thing to do.