Meanwhile in USA

[IR_Kuoin]

Tipping is something a communist would do.

[Drunken_sailor]

Mmm I think it's the other way around in this case, tipping creates more deviation in social class and imbues a dependence on benevolent aristocrats.

[Tibes]

Whats the taxes and the rates common workers have to pay in US? I know its varied, but generalize.

[Xant]

I'm european and I almost always tip but that's because I'm well off and you gotta give some gold coins back to the peasants, otherwise they'll revolt or something

A man after my own taste

[Leshma]

i don't believe in charity and tipping is form of charity so... i don't tip

charity is connected with aristocracy and we communists don't like bourgeoisie

basically, charity is way of insulting people with money

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1990s/1996/no-1097-january-1996/where-charity-begins-why-it-should-end

[Paul]

i don't tip

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As sad as it is, tipping is what keeps people with shit jobs from doing a shitty job. At least in theory. I tipped at the snipper and still got both ears.

[Westwood]

Whats the taxes and the rates common workers have to pay in US? I know its varied, but generalize.

Consider the following:
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf

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Graphics like this might give you a general idea, but it really is a near impossible question to answer given all the data-obscuring issues we have like 45% of households paying no Federal income tax, dumb friends not knowing how to file, Social Security and Medicare revenues being misleading because you're actually paying double what's reported in the form of depressed wages, etc. The numbers that are arrived at by various averages don't necessarily exist in real life, and certainly don't hold true throughout the country; my own State is unusual in that it has no State income tax, for instance, though we pay much more in sales and property taxes (which vary further by county) than most other States.

If you take a look at that IRS form you'll note that there are a great number of lines that need to be checked, added, subtracted, forms attached, and so on. Your final tally (and whether you owe taxes or receive a refund) fluctuates wildly based on your marital status, whether you are a dependent or have/don't have your own dependents, various transfers you received from the government or other individuals that year, your capital, your business, interest on certain loans you've taken, certain kinds of insurance you've purchased, homeownership, what you pay in local taxes, and an assortment of other enjoyable exemptions and deductions.

Even if you look at IRS data and derive some kind of median that's just Federal income tax, there are still State taxes, local taxes and levies, excise taxes. And on top of that whatever median you get is still the product of tens of millions of people filing in different ways at different levels of income, tens of millions not filing at all, tens of millions paying more or less than they ought to be, and all while also having different State and local tax burdens.

[Jona]

my own State is unusual in that it has no State income tax, for instance, though we pay much more in sales and property taxes (which vary further by county) than most other States.

The American Dream:

Live in Hawaii, work in Washington, buy stuff in New Hampshire. Easily achieved once you invent a teleporter.

[Drunken_sailor]

you can just buy stuff in Oregon

[Jona]

you can just buy stuff in Oregon

True, idk much about the west coast tbf. So really, I guess all you'd need is a really fast boat/airplane/underwater subway to commute back and forth between Hawaii and Washington.

[Turkhammer]

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As sad as it is, tipping is what keeps people with shit jobs from doing a shitty job. At least in theory. I tipped at the snipper and still got both ears.

No tipping in Japan and no ears lost at the snippers.  Tipping is a scam.

[Leshma]

In one corner you have honest communist who belives in equality and properly calculated cost of goods and services, who never tips (because tip is hidden cost of service). Other corner is occupied by mobster who generously tips because by doing that he's showing class difference between him and service provider, he's mainly generous because he stole the money from honest people. It is always easy to spend money you din't earn by working hard.

About people doing shitty jobs, serving others etc. Communism is all about technology, heavy industry, STEM jobs. As a communist you're not supposed to live in countryside and do manual labor, growing crops and selling them as single entity. You need to use technology and unite yourself with other farmers. But ideally you should live in large, grey concrete buildings and work at local plant, producing materials and goods that will push country forward greatness. Goods like nuclear warheads so you can bomb those filthy western capitalists who like maggots are trying to become wealthy but only less than 1% of them succeed.

If you've never been to former communist country, you have played Half Life 2 so you should have the idea what I'm talking about.

[Sandersson Jankins]

Whats the taxes and the rates common workers have to pay in US? I know its varied, but generalize.

westwood gave you nuance, so i'll give you shit-tier anecdotal spoonfeeding

i am an embarrassing college poorfeg (take-home pay like 16k atm) residing in a state that is ranked around 23-25 in terms of some amalgamated tax burden measure that i am not gonna look up any methodology to

i see roughly 1/5 of my income every pay period snatched away and generally receive around 1.1k in "refund" once per year. in terms of gub'mint services that i draw upon (besides MUH ROADS), i receive a 220 shekel subsidy per month for healthcare so i can have something that doesn't suck dick while paying only 50ish/month myself. also receive maybe 1.5k tops subsidy from uncle sam for school twice a year. so i'm basically right there on the edge of not being a net taxpayer but i don't/haven't used emergency services and haven't caused any societal trouble. i am the very cream of the crop of the American Underclass

also i tip 20-25 percent despite being such an embarrassing poormy old friend but i also only rarely go out to eat. had that behavior drilled into me in the period of childhood in which i still felt my father was The Prime Human Being and could do no wrong, and he felt strongly about tipping well.

[Golem]

But what if I am budhist monk that tips because he believes everyone to be enlightened and money has no value to him? So its not an insult but a joke, because I am giving you free pebbles.

[Oberyn]

I used to know some US students who worked as waiters while also going to uni. As said above without tips the average waiter's salary is not a liveable wage. I tended to just mentally add about 15-20 percent to the listed price of food automatically, not unlike the way sales tax isn't displayed on US prices but you just get used to it.

This also apparently made for a lot of drama as waiters at each place had different ways of dealing with tips. An equal way split between all waiters during a certain shift, all out survival of the fittest anarchy and endless whining about how Jessie that total slut took that table of 12 even though we'd agreed the next big take would go to Pamela, that total bitch, etc.