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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #345 on: June 10, 2015, 08:48:51 pm »
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I was about to start a rant and insulting your intelligence until I opened the spoiler! You got me, good one :lol:
And this is probably the highest grade historical delusion I've come across in this forum ever. It's up there with all the funny russians in the Ukraine-thread and Master Tovi... :lol:
Made me chuckle and shiver at the same time.
I would like to see that question answered tbh :D

I cannot determine if this is a compliment or an insult... And it would be interesting to see what the world would be like without the existence of a certain people. Probably very different then it is today.... But now we are getting into those multi dimension theory stuff so just no lets not go there
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #346 on: June 11, 2015, 01:19:08 am »
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Mr. Doom Carrot, as the best American on these forums, im going to have to ask you to stop your frantic posting on these forums, youre getting nowhere.

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #347 on: June 11, 2015, 02:59:08 am »
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christian principles are what made America the greatest nation on Earth
I thought that was WWII laying waste to all the other great nations, leaving the US, the late comer to the war with unprecedented geographical security, with half the world's wealth by 1945.

Concerning limiting, as you do, US imperialism to only Monroe Doctrine sphere of influence, how do you categorize US foreign policies since '47 and the Truman Doctrine, as it mopped up the remains of the British Empire? And during the Cold War? The Reagan Doctrine? After '89? The Bush Doctrine? US presence in the Middle-East?

Yes, the US has really been a light in the darkness. Let me just mention a few highlights in its illustrious history:

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And yes, nation states always try to sell their power politics as altruism or try to argue for the flawed logic of motive consequentialism, US isn't the first nor the last, in fact everyone does it, though few match the Anglo-American hypocrisy of the Victorian British and post-WWII USA. International affairs follow jungle law, not ethics. America is not the worst offender but neither can it claim historical exceptionalism by a long shot.

To sum it up, in the words of U.S Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, perhaps the single most active military officer in the Banana Wars, who saw action in Honduras in 1903, served in Nicaragua enforcing American policy from 1909–1912, was awarded the Medal of Honor for his role in Veracruz in 1914, and a second Medal of Honor for bravery while 'crushing the Caco resistance' in Haiti in 1915.

Butler wrote in his famous book War Is a Racket:

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    I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #348 on: June 11, 2015, 03:14:27 am »
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Hahahahahah HAHAHAHA. No really I actually did chuckle reading that.

The Philippines, as well as many other islands like cuba actually became America's possesions after the Spanish American War, which was declared after an innocent cruiser was sunk by a Spanish mine off the coast of Cuba. Most of the Spanish Islands like cuba and the philippines were 3rd world shitholes, because they were ruled under the concept of MERCANTILISM-a concept that "The said country exists ONLY for the purpose of the mother country." So in other words the spanish were basically turning the islands into "slave" islands, so that the country back at home could get all the wealth from their work, and the poor cubans and others lived in misery.

This issue, along with the sinking of the U.S.S Maine, outraged Americans and the american people cried out for other country's freedom. Thus, the war began, and ended with American possession of basically all of Spain's islands. Instead of being dicks like the Spanish, America HELPED cuba, Philippines, etc establish their own government, and basically taught them to support themselves. After a few years of helping them get on their feet as INDEPENDENT countries, America let them go with their new democratic governments. Eventually, Cuba obviously eventually fell to communism, and the Philippines to Guerillas.

This is 100% historically accurate-literally just basically copy pasted this out of a world history textbook, because I wasn't clear on all the facts.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #349 on: June 11, 2015, 03:23:05 am »
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #350 on: June 11, 2015, 03:26:51 am »
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What I write is from the official record, none of it is controversial. The US kept its economic stranglehold on the country after its supposed 'self-determination' rhetoric. That was the realpolitik imperative of the Monroe Doctrine.

I recommend reading more sources and more details about the invasion and US influence in Latin America, your attitude level exceeds your information level.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #351 on: June 11, 2015, 03:31:35 am »
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What I write is from the official record, nothing of it is controversial. The US kept it's economic stranglehold on the country after its supposed 'self-determination' rhetoric. That was the realpolitik imperative of the Monroe Doctrine.

I recommend reading more sources and more details about the invasion and US influence in Latin America, if you're interested.

 I can't take this ignorant crap anymore. Now Americans invaded Latin America as well? You're going way to far. You're making America out to be some demonic war machine that stomps on everybody's freedom and just wants to destroy everybody. 

America was built on free enterprise, its always been about free enterprise. The ignorance here is just too much now.  :mad: You can party now, I'm out.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #352 on: June 11, 2015, 03:44:09 am »
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Yes, as a simple search would have told you, the US has invaded Latin America many times.
http://faculty.chass.ncsu.edu/griffin/ps543/Timeline%20of%20US-Latin%20American%20Relations%20since%201823.htm (NC University)

I urge you to check the sources on any of the facts stated in my original post.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #353 on: June 11, 2015, 04:48:37 am »
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double post please delete

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #354 on: June 11, 2015, 05:51:39 am »
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Yes, as a simple search would have told you, the US has invaded Latin America many times.
http://faculty.chass.ncsu.edu/griffin/ps543/Timeline%20of%20US-Latin%20American%20Relations%20since%201823.htm (NC University)

I urge you to check the sources on any of the facts stated in my original post.

Dude are you retarded? You are trying to teach a product of the US school system about actual historical events and situations. You might aswell tell Christians about the futility of following the mandates of a book written by people who needed a guide to know that killing each other is bad.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #355 on: June 11, 2015, 09:11:51 am »
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What I write is from the official record, none of it is controversial.
Well, he's got a point that the Philippines were not a French colony as you wrote, but a Spanish one. Though perhaps it was just a typo on your part.

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #356 on: June 11, 2015, 10:37:00 am »
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a product of the US school system

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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #357 on: June 11, 2015, 01:00:36 pm »
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Btw Doom_Carrot: Do you know what a carrot injected with 'doom' actually is?
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #358 on: June 11, 2015, 01:23:59 pm »
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Btw Doom_Carrot: Do you know what a carrot injected with 'doom' actually is?

Probably something phallic.
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Re: Law enforcement in America.
« Reply #359 on: June 11, 2015, 02:14:18 pm »
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I do not question whether Switz is a great nation and all, but sometimes the ONLY way to stop evil is with strength and resolve. And so far only a few nations have shown that in recent decades against evils that could not have been stopped through smiles and sweet talking. Communism spread unchecked until Reagan finally stepped up in his famous quote: "Mister Gorbachev, Tear down this wall!" H!itler fueled the flames of a dying and dispirited nation into a facist juggernaut which seemed unstoppable, and ALL the sweet talks, and peaceful negotiations, and treaty pacts, and agreements could not stop his hungry rush for power.

America has the strength to stand up for whats right, (had) once upon the time the morals to know what was right, and (was) generous and prosperous enough to help other nations, not just their own. America has been the place of making impossible dreams possible, and it has many a time been a beacon of hope in a dark world. However, to be fair and honest, Americans no longer possess many of these qualities, and thus I do not think I can honestly say that America is STILL the greatest nation on Earth. But its not too late to turn things around for the better.
Hehe it's funny the two thing great things that america has done you listed, america was taking part in it but was not the major cause. chocolate chip cookie Germany fell thanks to USSR, america interviened in the war when Germany was already loosing to USSR. And USSR and berlin wall did not fall thanks to america but thanks to Gorbatchev and the people of Germany and Russia.
I must admit it could have been worse if another nation was the most powerfull, but it could also be really better (see argantyr post). If a less interventionist state (India or Germany) was the most powerfull country, the world would be in a much better state imo. The only good thing America has brought to the world would be its powerfull justice system that is working pretty well compared to others.

@Argantyr: Under Suharto, the suppression of politcal oposition killed even more than the ethnic cleansing of timor-east. More than 500'000 people were killed across indonesia with the support of US gouvernement.
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