Random question of the week

[jack786]

Okay, I was there thinking, but how did actual medieval elite knights/commanders and generals survived battles back in medieval era?
Lol take for example in crpg no matter how strong you are, one round you will get hit and killed, not talking about some random flying arrow.
So the big question is how. Luck? Very strong plate armor?

Imagine being in middle of something like this
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[polkafranzi]

enemy didn't use macros back then.

[BlueKnight]

Okay, I was there thinking, but how did actual medieval elite knights/commands and generals survived battles back in medieval era?
Lol take for example in crpg no matter how strong you are, you will get hit and killed, not talking about some random flying arrow.
So the big question is how. Luck? Very strong plate armor?

Sell important guys to Ransom brokers. Ramun the slave trader will give you only 50 denars for whoever you sell. May it be a 'vaegir knight' or just a 'looter', you will get same money. Ransom brokers will pay accordingly to the worth of their lives and if you catch King Yaroglek, his faction may pay you really well for him. Why would you kill him then?

It's an example from native single-player but I hope you can see the connection with rl medieval here. Kings/Leaders/Important people don't just brainlessly charge with 1st line so the chances of killing them by a mistake are small.


Also yes, painter was in the middle of the field of battle and just painted this quickly as that guy was dying there in the middle. Totally wasn't his imagination, no.

Also tincan armour and no helmet... nub deserved to lose the battle.

[Snufalufagus]

They stayed far far away from any real action.

[Rhaegar]

they had the best equipment, the best bodyguards, and not all the great generals loved to fight on the front line;luck clearly plays a key part in how everything in life

[jack786]

Okay, so thats one thing, but there were also veteran squads, guys who had huge beards, lots of scars and big muscle, how did they survived? 1h shielders with good formations?

[Wiltzu]

You can't get through plate without having a xbow.

[SirCymro_Crusader]

You didn't really use swords in close combat, they were to big and ungainly to swing. Most men-at-arms used hammers of a sort - crush helmets, breastplates = dead knight haha. Also a lot of knights/men-at-arms were killed by their own men - they fell down and got crushed together, and if they fell down it was rpetty hard to get back up again. So you lie there hoping to not die - then a dagger goes through your eye slit and you be dead

[Rhaegar]

experience certainly played a role imported, when you know the battle is not the fear and aggisce rationally, committing fewer errors and remaining alive and also know when to retreat from the battle could be important...

[BlueKnight]

You didn't really use swords in close combat, they were to big and ungainly to swing. Most men-at-arms used hammers of a sort - crush helmets, breastplates = dead knight haha. Also a lot of knights/men-at-arms were killed by their own men - they fell down and got crushed together, and if they fell down it was rpetty hard to get back up again. So you lie there hoping to not die - then a dagger goes through your eye slit and you be dead

That's a great bedtime-story for my kids, thanks Cymro.

[Daunt_Flockula]

Considering the fact that crpg does not truly incorporate realism but really comes very close to it, I believe based on my experience with this game (the only medieval battle experience I have indeed) that survival would probably depend as much on luck as it would on your personal finesse, strength, skills etc. in a real battlefield.

Turning into an arrowbag, for example, shouldn't really be that hard in a heated battle.

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[SirCymro_Crusader]

That's a great bedtime-story for my kids, thanks Cymro.

Not sure if sarcasm or....

[Falka]

Okay, I was there thinking, but how did actual medieval elite knights/commanders and generals survived battles back in medieval era?

Sometimes they didn't.

Władysław III (31 October 1424 – 10 November 1444), also known as Władysław of Varna was King of Poland from 1434, and King of Hungary from 1440, until his death at the Battle of Varna.[1]

John the Blind (Luxembourgish: Jang de Blannen; German: Johann der Blinde von Luxemburg; Czech: Jan Lucemburský) (10 August 1296 – 26 August 1346) was the Count of Luxembourg from 1309 and King of Bohemia from 1310 and titular King of Poland. He was the eldest son of the Holy Roman Emperor Henry VII and his wife Margaret of Brabant. He is well known for having died while fighting in the Battle of Crécy at age 50, after having been blind for a decade.

Richard III (2 October 1452 – 22 August 1485) was King of England for two years, from 1483 until his death in 1485 in the Battle of Bosworth Field.

Louis II (Hungarian: Lajos, Czech: Ludvík Jagellonský; 1 July 1506 – 29 August 1526) was King of Hungary, Croatia and King of Bohemia (as Louis) from 1516 to 1526. He was killed during the Battle of Mohács fighting the Ottomans.

and more, who I don't remember at the moment.

[BlueKnight]

Not sure if sarcasm or....

...or I don't have kids

[Utrakil]

Many survived because the goal is to win a battle and not to kill all enemies. So when you were severely injured you left the battlefield to get medical attention. the higher your rank the more soldiers helped you to escape to a save place. The battle leaders mostly allowed the defeated army to collect their wounded from the battlefield. To go and kill every last one of them was not according to the knights code.