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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #90 on: March 29, 2014, 01:23:47 am »
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Macro users are possible to spot with the naked eye. I might be old, but I'm not blind.
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It's detectable, it's recordable, it's spottable, if you know how it looks.
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I will ban macro users for real next time.

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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #91 on: March 29, 2014, 01:28:17 am »
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the one with Thomek -----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exG5kZqlSss&feature=youtu.be

If you had a macro it wouldnt be shown on this cam angle and hard to tell with your player cam if you're as fast as when you use them.
Would require someone else to capture you in-game, and you recording yourself not moving the mouse (except tiny bit for the attack directions) and just using mouse input with cam showing where your fingers hit (only the mouse 1 and mouse 2 buttons)... If you really want to defend your name.

I've been playing this game for 3 years, I believe I know what speed is impossible to achieve in feinting. And if I'm wrong I'll publically post my apologies.
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #92 on: March 29, 2014, 01:39:12 am »
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How come it's "detectable, recordable, spotable" if you just accused someone and failed with that? I mean, does every player have to have a video of himself playing to not get banned when you "will ban macro users for real next time"?

Listen, I just want us to do something about this macro crap. When people ask me when we are going to start, I thought I'd just try and see what happens. It's been shuffled away under the carpet for too long, I think.

It's not a big problem to record a video at 60 fps and count frames. It's just an awful amount of work.
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #93 on: March 29, 2014, 01:57:55 am »
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Listen, I just want us to do something about this macro crap. When people ask me when we are going to start, I thought I'd just try and see what happens. It's been shuffled away under the carpet for too long, I think.

It's not a big problem to record a video at 60 fps and count frames. It's just an awful amount of work.

So you go and ban someone for a personal belief.

Heh, we tried that on NA. Gave someone random admin for a day to ban for text. Worst wiplash you could see.

Stick to rules that are defined, not perceived.
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #94 on: March 29, 2014, 02:00:57 am »
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So you go and ban someone for a personal belief.

Heh, we tried that on NA. Gave someone random admin for a day to ban for text. Worst wiplash you could see.

Stick to rules that are defined, not perceived.

Common sense, duh.

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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #95 on: March 29, 2014, 02:04:19 am »
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I'm aware I'm sticking my hand in a can of wasps by doing this. But someone has to do it, we, either as players or admins, need to deal with this now. It's just as retarded to pretend something doesn't exist when a lot of people are using it.

Tbh I have no idea if its used at all on NA, so I may look like paranoid idiot to you, but believe me, I was a non-believer for the longest. But sure, keep eating your blue pills.

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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #96 on: March 29, 2014, 02:07:10 am »
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Common sense, duh.

It's common sense that I can ban someone for a perceived action! HOLY SHIT, SO I CAN SHOOT SOMEONE IF I PERCEIVE THAT THEY MAY HARM ME?!

That's neither common sense, nor a law.(which is apt for this case as an example.)

If it is detectable, then no admin should ban, and only Zagibu(who is the manager/runner of crpg right?) should. Otherwise it should be CMP/chadz like it always has.

Beyond that, stick to the rules you have already. Remember, Innocent until proven Guilty. Never the other way around.

I'm aware I'm sticking my hand in a can of wasps by doing this. But someone has to do it, we, either as players or admins, need to deal with this now. It's just as retarded to pretend something doesn't exist when a lot of people are using it.

Tbh I have no idea if its used at all on NA, so I may look like paranoid idiot to you, but believe me, I was a non-believer for the longest. But sure, keep eating your blue pills.



Sure, be the first, but lose your admin for it or give it up. I'm Fine with that. If you can't make any choices from this point forward then I'm content to let you do this. You get your chance, you lose your admin, everyone that has macros learns better.

I'd be MORE with you if it wasn't a "He's using macros I think, BAN HE!" type of thing.
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2014, 02:36:14 am »
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It's common sense that I can ban someone for a perceived action! HOLY SHIT, SO I CAN SHOOT SOMEONE IF I PERCEIVE THAT THEY MAY HARM ME?!

That's neither common sense, nor a law.(which is apt for this case as an example.)

If it is detectable, then no admin should ban, and only Zagibu(who is the manager/runner of crpg right?) should. Otherwise it should be CMP/chadz like it always has.

Beyond that, stick to the rules you have already. Remember, Innocent until proven Guilty. Never the other way around.

Sure, be the first, but lose your admin for it or give it up. I'm Fine with that. If you can't make any choices from this point forward then I'm content to let you do this. You get your chance, you lose your admin, everyone that has macros learns better.

I'd be MORE with you if it wasn't a "He's using macros I think, BAN HE!" type of thing.

Lol Anders why are you talking like you're a person with power in this community?


I'd prefer admins to crack down on the neon colored weapons being used, that stuff is bullshit.
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2014, 02:52:21 am »
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Lol Anders why are you talking like you're a person with power in this community?


I'd prefer admins to crack down on the neon colored weapons being used, that stuff is bullshit.

That's even harder to handle by admins. Both this and macros need to be handled not by admins but by upper management instead(devs or who ever is currently equivalent)
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2014, 02:58:40 am »
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That's even harder to handle by admins. Both this and macros need to be handled not by admins but by upper management instead(devs or who ever is currently equivalent)

If chadz was on it, it would be fair?  :P 
The problem is complicated whoever is chosen/volunteer to try and fix this.

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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2014, 03:10:00 am »
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #101 on: March 29, 2014, 03:12:27 am »
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #102 on: March 29, 2014, 03:16:32 am »
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If chadz was on it, it would be fair?  :P 
The problem is complicated whoever is chosen/volunteer to try and fix this.

Yes. As long as it wasn't like thomek's "feeling" and handled by either software(like the Multi accounting) them I'm fine with final choice.
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2014, 03:20:13 am »
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Then, start banning these players:

Kesh_Unicorns
Cirilla_Evil_Witch
Tyjah
El_supreme_EL
Leshma
Nikodin_HRE
GK_Chagan_Arslan
Hrolfr
Varadin_The_Grey
Qoray
etc... etc...

Ban us for what? I don't want to be epeen or a dick here but seems i have to so you can understand, im sorry for being too good for you in this game,also i dont feint at all , most of my fight is block and swing back with holding attacks.
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Re: When are macro abusers getting banned?
« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2014, 08:27:29 am »
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Listen, I just want us to do something about this macro crap. When people ask me when we are going to start, I thought I'd just try and see what happens. It's been shuffled away under the carpet for too long, I think.

It's not a big problem to record a video at 60 fps and count frames. It's just an awful amount of work.
I mean, if Qoray is not using macros (which I'm really glad to know), who is? Where is the problem?
Of all good duellists I know, Qoray has the most macro-looking feints, really I can't even come up with any other name who could be suspected.