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Offline HarunYahya

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How to play shielder properly .
« on: March 26, 2014, 03:31:50 pm »
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Hello lads !
I've been playing this mod for 3 years and I played with every class.
Most of the time I played as a shielder and tried every possible builds with it.
Nowadays I see lots of shielders playing so wrong so I am preparing this guide.

There are three ways to play non-hybrid infantry shielders
-Agiwhore archer chaser
-Tanky bruiser to be targeted by enemies and creating opportunities to your infantry
-Balanced all around disrupter.

First thing I have to mention that your main job is not to kill the enemy !
In this game 2handed hero wannabees have the most damage output,after that polearms follow up so your main job is to create opportunities to your teammates who uses those shit.

Although knockdown has been reduced i still suggest you guys to use high weight blunt 1h weapons(Knockdowned enemy is easy target for you and your teammates) and a long,cheap sword to deflect cav (Also to use in 1v1 situations,i'll come to that.)
(i.e: Winged mace + Long Arming Sword)

What are your main objectives as shielder ?
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2 Epic weapons of shielder :
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Don't underestimate Iron Flesh skill.
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Play defensive !
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What to do on 1v1 situations ?
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How to deal with backpedallers ?
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Strat battles
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This is my way of playing productive shielder,you may agree or disagree . Thanks for reading and i hope this helps someone out.

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014, 04:02:22 pm »
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Nice man

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2014, 04:39:56 pm »
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Protecting your archers

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Nice guide, i'd also suggest posting builds and explaining them.

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2014, 05:18:28 pm »
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Don't forget the neutral shield nudge (press V without holding attack or block), it's become one of my favorite weapons.

-Relatively easy to land (just be careful against opponents with much more athletics than you)
-Does serious damage to lightly-armored foes
-Disrupts your opponent's attack, so you can use it to vastly prolong your shield's life
-Briefly opens up opponents for your allies to get a free hit
-Sometime you can glitch through them during the nudge and get a free hit outside their block arc
-Interrupts the rhythm of the fight, which can force even excellent duelists to make mistake
-Knocks down ranged that are holding a shot

I probably neutral nudge more often than I shield block nowadays.


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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2014, 04:43:05 am »
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Thanks for pointin ou to the obvious, OP
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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2014, 11:30:05 am »
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Let's say you are dueling with one, first don't chase him ! Stand still , block his few swings ,his little brain will start to collapse when you don't respond to his retarded playing method.
This is gold :lol:

I also suggest adding a seperate chapter of how to counter ranged for you and your team. Because yes, people are that much retarded.
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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2014, 11:40:11 am »
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This is gold :lol:

I also suggest adding a seperate chapter of how to counter ranged for you and your team. Because yes, people are that much retarded.

Best way to counter ranged as shielder is to avoid being in line of sight of them and keeping your distance.

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 03:29:44 pm »
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I break all those rules, but these are some funny tips.
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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2014, 11:45:12 pm »
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Quick request here to OP:

What build do you recommend for this kind of shielder? Read a few threads before, but most were old or not particularily appealing.

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2014, 03:14:47 pm »
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Quick request here to OP:

What build do you recommend for this kind of shielder? Read a few threads before, but most were old or not particularily appealing.
For level 30:
15str-21agi =3 IF,7SHIELD,7WM,5PS,7ATH. Good agi based shielder build,deals enough damage ,damage goes extreme if you manage to use your footwork well to benefit speedbonus of 7 ath,good speed,good shield skill so you can a lot of hits if you want,if you don't you can just run back a good disrupter shielder build with 56 health ! This build shines with this playing method. Go between the enemies,nudge em,let them tk each other trying to hit you,if things go bad,retreat.

15 str is enough for 1hander class i think. Remember,powerstrike gives +%8 damage and since base damage from 1handers are between 20-35 (Max 39 or 40 with axe) PS doesn't change damage output as it changes in 2h class where there are weapons with 50 base damage. So investing in agi is superior. 21 agi is good start but to be honest 24 is better,the more the merrier.


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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2014, 04:28:27 pm »
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Shielders can be killing machines, just so you know.

I aspire to this every day, sometimes with more success than others.

Nice tips though!

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2014, 08:45:23 pm »
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Shielders can be killing machines, just so you know.

I aspire to this every day, sometimes with more success than others.

Nice tips though!
They can, I know.
But it's unnecessary in my opinion. You can contribute more by disrupting the enemy.
2H and Poles can be killing machines with far less training and effort , leaving it to them and doing what they can't by playing defensive and creating opportunities is more superior in my mind.

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2014, 09:19:34 pm »
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They can, I know.
But it's unnecessary in my opinion. You can contribute more by disrupting the enemy.
2H and Poles can be killing machines with far less training and effort , leaving it to them and doing what they can't by playing defensive and creating opportunities is more superior in my mind.

The reason shielders can have the same offensive potential as 2h/pole is because they are the most ignored class on the battlefield, since no one enjoys beating on a shield. This anonymity can enable you to run around interrupting enemies and protecting allies, but it can also allow you to sneak up on enemies and deliver a devastating warhammer overhead, for instance. The easiest way to kill anyone is to attack them while they are fighting someone else.

Shielders are at a disadvantage in any kind of 1v1 situation (due to shield weight+poor coverage/blocking speed), so you generally want to try to get in 2v1 and 1v2 situations (yes, a lot of times it's easier to kill an enemy when he has false confidence from a nearby ally than if you were in 1v1 with just him). The old "pretend to attack one guy, but hit his ally instead" trick is the easiest way to land hits on pro blockers.

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2014, 09:26:42 pm »
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The best tip I have for shielders is to play/spectate NA seige and watch Phew or Dr Demento go to work.  On a good day they are disrupting the enemy and getting a solid 12:1 kdr at the same time!  :)

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Re: How to play shielder properly .
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2014, 09:32:30 pm »
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The best tip I have for shielders is to play/spectate NA seige and watch Phew or Dr Demento go to work.  On a good day they are disrupting the enemy and getting a solid 12:1 kdr at the same time!  :)

Don't watch me, I am pretty reckless and die a lot. San, Hungry, Demento, Dread (and several more that don't play NA2 anymore) are all a lot better than me.