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Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« on: March 16, 2014, 09:40:06 pm »
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So i used to run 13 shield skill on one of my character, And I just came back from being away for like a year.
I just respeced my 13 shield guy because all my characters were reset to no skill but still lvl 30 and my shield is now taking dmg even though the website still says that each shield skill adds 8% to dmg reduction so 13 should be 104%. But clearly it isnt, Whats the new math or cap. As the respec didnt tell me.


I would also like to ask the Admins to let me reroll my character again as the website doesn't state the effectiveness of the skill correctly and now my build is useless. Name on the character is Donatello_TMNT

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2014, 09:44:30 pm »
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They changed the skill point system a little, which I didn't look into too much, but all you needed to do was just add in the skill points again yourself, because they just reset everyone's points for them to recalculate everything and adjust their points to the new system.

Sorry I didn't answer your question much, I just play and feel what stats are right for me :o
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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014, 09:56:49 pm »
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I added a picture so you can see what im talking about... it clearly shows that 13 shield skill should give me 104% dmg reduction and there for no shield should take dmg, Yet my shield does.
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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014, 09:59:55 pm »
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The shield skill bonus was tweaked so that it's impossible to make your shield invulnerable. How exactly it was tweaked, I don't remember (I may even never have seen it).

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2014, 10:02:36 pm »
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The shield skill bonus was tweaked so that it's impossible to make your shield invulnerable. How exactly it was tweaked, I don't remember (I may even never have seen it).

Yeah, I've found that out lol but it doesn't say how on the character building sheet. Which has led to rebuilding my shield build which is not not effective. That is why I am asking for a respec.
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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2014, 10:24:53 pm »
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A functional frontal lobe could have helped you in not making the mistake of EXPLOIT EVERYTHING THAT IS EXPLOITABLE a second time after being caught.

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2014, 10:35:05 pm »
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A functional frontal lobe could have helped you in not making the mistake of EXPLOIT EVERYTHING THAT IS EXPLOITABLE a second time after being caught.

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 11:03:06 pm »
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 .1 + 0.06 * shield skill

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 11:12:17 pm »
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.1 + 0.06 * shield skill

So you need 15 shield skill now.

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2014, 11:14:44 pm »
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About time that was made public. So now it is even less worth it going over your minimum shield requirement... Well that's an extra 2 points I will have available for IF then.
And interesting that at 5 shield skill the old and new values coincide

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2014, 11:27:22 pm »
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I made a proposal that may help a bit with extra effectiveness for high shield skill with the shield wall bonus (providing +2 to +4 to other shielders at high levels) and better scaling of shield bash damage to not deal 0 damage in almost all cases to light-medium armour, but voting has been a little inactive lately. I want it so lower shield players shouldn't notice anything, but higher shield skill players would have some extra utility without directly buffing them.

Extreme shield skill users see their shield breaking around twice as fast as before or more.

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2014, 11:28:51 pm »
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Shields are useless, you get hit less without them
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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2014, 11:31:24 pm »
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Extreme shield skill is just a gimmick/troll build anyway, even before this change. The extra durability doesn't bring anything even half as important as more HP, more damage or more speed. And yes, some people do well with very high shield skill builds, but that doesn't mean those builds would not be better with less shield and more everything else.

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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2014, 12:30:17 am »
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I was under the impression that a good 3/4ths of the builds in this mod are just gimmicks and troll builds.
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Re: Whats the new shield skill mechanic
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 12:39:10 am »
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I was under the impression that a good 3/4ths of the builds in this mod are just gimmicks and troll builds.

If you look at every possible build individually, way more than 3/4 would be completely useless. But obviously that's not what you are talking about.