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Should training lessons and the respec system be reformed to provide less game constrain?

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In my opinien they should change the trainigslesson system. Why they dont make a price for example 2mio gold and you can change your build if you want. So they get there fucking gold like the auction and you dont have to wait so long for the respec. Make the respec as auction is bullshit. There are so many players who have more then 10mio gold and you have no chance to get one. Bring the fun back for every player and give respecs fo everyone not only for guys with a lot of gold. Why we need an auction to get a trainingslesson?
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In my opinien they should change the trainigslesson system. Why they dont make a price for example 2mio gold and you can change your build if you want. So they get there fucking gold like the auction and you dont have to wait so long for the respec. Make the respec as auction is bullshit. There are so many players who have more then 10mio gold and you have no chance to get one. Bring the fun back for every player and give respecs fo everyone not only for guys with a lot of gold. Why we need an auction to get a trainingslesson?
Sorry for my bad english. I hate the language ;-)

2M gold is still a lot of gold. Respecs shouldn't be balanced by the pocket value. I just don't understand how 3-week cooldown on respecs would hurt anyone. Or we could use other system where you'd base the respec cooldownduration on the level of the character.
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There is an idea to keep bumping chadz about the respec-change via IRC chat. Starting today, I'm going to keep bumping him daily about it. The more of you join me the bigger chances something will be done about it.
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There is an idea to keep bumping chadz about the respec-change via IRC chat. Starting today, I'm going to keep bumping him daily about it. The more of you join me the bigger chances something will be done about it.

Honestly can't tell if you are trolling or not.

Also anyone who cares that much about this is basically an entitled manchild, demanding that devs alter their game so you don't feel like you've wasted hundreds of hours of your life when you lose half the XP on that level 35 character. Guess what? You did, your time and XP are worthless, just respec and go down 1 level with a more optimized build and stop posting.
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Honestly can't tell if you are trolling or not.

Also anyone who cares that much about this is basically an entitled manchild, demanding that devs alter their game so you don't feel like you've wasted hundreds of hours of your life when you lose half the XP on that level 35 character. Guess what? You did, your time and XP are worthless, just respec and go down 1 level with a more optimized build and stop posting.

My build is optimised, the problem is that I'd be respeccing every few weeks because the game starts to be boring. I have great build but it doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to try different ones. Has NA side seen such a boost in the amount of players when there was WPF patch and a free respec? EU players were like back in action. Game needs to stay fresh and I'm sure there are many players who'd like to try other things as well but don't feel arsed to level it up.

Also stop being disrespectful and maybe reread the last 10 pages so you actually finally understand why I'm bumping this topic. 1 free respec doesn't cut it as you may change your mind when it comes to what you want to play. If one told me that I have to decide what class and what build I'm going to play for next 3 years, I wouldn't probably take him seriously...
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My build is optimised, the problem is that I'd be respeccing every few weeks because the game starts to be boring. I have great build but it doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to try different ones. Has NA side seen such a boost in the amount of players when there was WPF patch and a free respec? EU players were like back in action. Game needs to stay fresh and I'm sure there are many players who'd like to try other things as well but don't feel arsed to level it up.

Also stop being disrespectful and maybe reread the last 10 pages so you actually finally understand why I'm bumping this topic. 1 free respec doesn't cut it as you may change your mind when it comes to what you want to play. If one told me that I have to decide what class and what build I'm going to play for next 3 years, I wouldn't probably take him seriously...

You don't have to be stuck "for next 3 years." You can respec right now, for free, at the cost of XP. I literally respecced every month or two with level 33 characters to try out new high different builds because of boredom. It just costs you XP.

Deal with it  8-).
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Just make it free and without a cooldown. Lets call it respec.

This current type of rigid game structure is like games were in the 90's.
The year is 2014, ever other game has respecs built into their games, and most without and cost or penalty.

Because people like to try things out.




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Just make it free and without a cooldown. Lets call it respec.
There must be cooldown cuz of strategus.

This current type of rigid game structure is like games were in the 90's.
The year is 2014, ever other game has respecs built into their games, and most without and cost or penalty.

Because people like to try things out.
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The problem with respec vs. retiring is simple. There are a ton of shitlords high level builds out there currently because people don't want to retire. Instead they want to redo their stats at the cost of little to nothing, when all you have to do is retire and redo your build. Back when I started 31 was about the highest anyone ever went because of loom points, except for a few people who were already high level. Now 33 is the new 31 and most people don't even retire or want to retire their main because of the superior build it has over every person below them on the battle field. My advice, quit being cunts and retire or respec your character. Hell start a new character. The last thing we need are more people with maxed out builds that can change them at any given time because they simply feel like it.

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There must be cooldown cuz of strategus.
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Why must there be a cooldown because of strategus?

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The problem with respec vs. retiring is simple. There are a ton of shitlords high level builds out there currently because people don't want to retire. Instead they want to redo their stats at the cost of little to nothing, when all you have to do is retire and redo your build. Back when I started 31 was about the highest anyone ever went because of loom points, except for a few people who were already high level. Now 33 is the new 31 and most people don't even retire or want to retire their main because of the superior build it has over every person below them on the battle field. My advice, quit being cunts and retire or respec your character. Hell start a new character. The last thing we need are more people with maxed out builds that can change them at any given time because they simply feel like it.

I have 15 alts, some of my alts are high levels, some of them I haven't used for a long time. Most EU players are high levels.

When everyone is lvl 30 it just feels like you attend a race where max worth of your car is 5 000 $, while playing on a server where most players are is 32-34 feels like a race with max car-worth at 150 000$. I don't understand why your will should make people retire and get back to boring 30. Builds are superbasic there, no room for fun, every skillpoint has to be spent carefully not to make you UP, not to mention that 1-25 is most boring thing ever. I retired over 30 times and I'm fucking fed up with this. Respeccing is not an option. Go throw away over 80M exp yourself.

Game is vapid and needs a refresher. I respect my time and don't feel like spending few hundreds of hours on something that I have a temporary flavour about

Why must there be a cooldown because of strategus?
For castle-defences cav players would respec to infantry or other stuff and people would cry about it.
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