The War Cleaver

[Built]

The War Cleaver
Many of you know of this weapon

I am not here to whine about how it is op or broken, I am here to issue a challenge.
I want any one player or dev to get something of the same size and weight placement and swing it around as if you were in CRpg and then tell me if its still balanced

provide Video if you wish

[Miwiw]

Please open a thread for every other weapon.

Please get a Long Bow irl, use it and show us how to shoot over 200m or more. Best is, you also add a video to give a proof.
Repeat with every other weapon.

Forget realism, realism doesnt matter, realism sucks. This is a game, nothing has to be any close to realism.
If you can swing a 2h sword around, if you can use a bow, if you can ride a horse, then why goddamn shouldn't it be possible to swing a war cleaver as well?

[Built]

swing a war cleaver as well?

As a semi professional butcher, I'll have you know swinging a cleaver is nothing like swinging a sword.

[Miwiw]

And that's something you should quickly forget, put it out of your mind. Forget it.

Especially since the War Cleaver is already an unbalanced weapon, it is of course not like a sword which is balanced. So there's game-wise already a difference.

[Umbra]

Buy a sword, go to a history museum and slash the Milanese plate on display a few times. Record a video of your findings and subsequent arest.

This is of great importance

[Built]

And that's something you should quickly forget, put it out of your mind. Forget it.

Sir I get paid to butcher things, please dont suggest I stop getting paid.
Also I sense some agitation, is there perhaps something you would like to discuss sir?

[Miwiw]

I'm not a knight, so stop using "sir".

Anyway, you may be a butcher but why do you think you got any idea of warfare though?
Unless you're a troll, what you probably are.

[Built]

Buy a sword, go to a history museum and slash the Milanese plate on display a few times. Record a video of your findings and subsequent arest.

This is of great importance

Sir this is a red herring, I am not here to suggest that the weapon is improperly balanced, just that I would like confirmation that it is just me who has trouble keeping track of it moving around in someone's arms like an epileptic gerbil.

[Built]

I'm not a knight, so stop using "sir".

Anyway, you may be a butcher but why do you think you got any idea of warfare though?
Unless you're a troll, what you probably are.

I use sir for it is the polite pronoun to use, unless you are not a man in which case miss. I take offense to your insinuation that I am a troll and this thread might just be because I have not had my morning tea.

[Tydeus]

I want any one player or dev to get something of the same size and weight placement and swing it around as if you were in CRpg and then tell me if its still balanced

War Cleaver
weapon length: 120
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 93
weapon length: 120
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced

What? Did I miss something?

[Built]

War Cleaver
weapon length: 120
weight: 3.5
difficulty: 15
speed rating: 93
weapon length: 120
swing damage: 45 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced

What? Did I miss something?

Gameplay balanced, not balanced balanced

[Tydeus]

I don't think it's in dire need of anything. One more cut damage, possibly, nothing more.

[Macropus]

Sir this is a red herring, I am not here to suggest that the weapon is improperly balanced, just that I would like confirmation that it is just me who has trouble keeping track of it moving around in someone's arms like an epileptic gerbil.

Here you are, I confirm that War Cleaver is perfectly balanced game-wise except probably a bit underpowered. 
And if you have troubles blocking unbalanced weapons, you would most likely have even more problems while blocking faster/balanced weapons.

[Grumbs]

War Cleaver is a nice weapon for people without looms because of the high base damage. Unbalanced is quite a big flaw though when you don't also get knockdown or shield breaker.

Also look at Dadao, very similar but not unbalanced

[Gravoth_iii]

2014
Still trying to implement realism into the game.

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