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First of all, M&B why fun, because the real. Because the history of real things

Then, M&B is a game which need to be balance.

But a balance not blindly weaken other occupation and skills to achieve the purpose. That would be ridiculous

We hate the distance, so the distance has been weakened. The remote can also say hate infantry. The infantry attack also should be weakened ?

There are a lot of people hating cavalry, and hate house archers.

I'll give you a solution to the satisfaction of all now!

1 remote power back

2 cancel shield points.

3 manoeuvring cavalry down to the donkey's degree

Achieve the above modifications, will appear those phenomenon

1 cavalry will be wave flow.

2 house archers only in a distant shot .

3 infantry will shielded

(in addition, please Japanese bow slot into 2. Japan did not house archer nation. Now just because you love the person of Japanese samurai, in order to make the Japanese bow people can get hands Japanese sword. So the Japanese bow slot into 1. It's as if Japan becomes the strongest house archers. This isn't funny??)

(another thing, I am a level 35 Mongolia cavalry, can ride as a horse archer in a shield machetes. Can play well in any type of map. Why can you be rather baffling to the skilled docked me? I had one hand 75 arrow 150 skilled by single hand you buckle left more than 20. Where are you with the wrong? Why can't I will cut people will ride can archery?? This soldier in the nomadic everywhere!)
You really want to single occupation, but I am 35 level Mongolia cavalry. Can cut Can shot can ride a horse. Each type of map can get good grades. But the unexpected you cut my skilled, buckle my bow! You're so great!

So, when you put the game to the real natural balance. You blindly weaken an occupation. Is only a joke



首先,骑砍为什么好玩,因为真实。因为历史上真实存在的东西都有

然后,骑砍是个游戏,是游戏就要平衡。

但是平衡不是靠一味的削弱其他职业和技能来达到目的的。那样会非常可笑

大家很讨厌远程,所以远程被一再的削弱。那远程是不是也能说讨厌步兵。把步兵的攻击力削弱到砍不死人呢?

还有很多人讨厌骑兵,讨厌骑射。

我现在给你们一个皆大欢喜的解决方案!

1 把远程的威力恢复原样,可设定成普通箭头射不进铠甲。但是穿甲箭头可以射进。

2 取消盾牌点。所有的盾牌都可以免加点用(现实中哪个白痴不会拿盾牌?)所有职业所有人都可以拿盾牌,也可以设置成没有加盾牌点的人用盾牌会速度慢。但是一定要所有人可以拿盾牌。事实上原版单机根本不需要加盾牌点。你在CRPG里增加了盾牌点,无非就是想让职业更单一化。

3 把骑兵的操控性降到毛驴的程度(现在的骑兵的灵活性是根本不现实的)这样就能有效的削弱骑兵和骑射在人群里像开碰碰车一样简单

达到以上修改后,将会出现以下现象

1骑兵将扎堆集中冲锋,一波流。(因为以往的控马灵活性已经没有)

2骑射只能在远处射(因为以往的控马灵活性已经没有,不可能再在人群里耍人玩)

3 步兵将集中盾牌阵冲锋


(另外,请你把日本弓的槽变成2。 日本根本就不是弓骑民族。现在就因为作者你个人喜欢日本武士,为了让拿日本弓的人能拿双手日本刀。所以把日本弓的槽变成1。搞的好像日本弓变成最强骑射弓一样。这不是搞笑吗??)

(还有件事,我玩的大号是35级的蒙古骑兵,能骑马 能射箭 有盾牌 有弯刀。在任何类型地图上都能打出好成绩。可为什么你莫名其妙的要把我的熟练扣掉?我原来单手75 弓箭150的熟练 被你扣的单手只剩20多。你哪跟筋搭错了?我知道你就一心想把每个职业都设定的单一到家,你觉得这样很好玩??我怎么就不能又会砍人又会骑马还能射箭了??这样的战士在游牧民族里到处都是!)

其实 作者你对CRPG做的最多的就是平衡数据,而在游戏系统方面基本没做什么。而你做的所谓的平衡,不过是一心把职业单一化,然后一心的削弱弓箭手。

你一心的想把职业单一化,可我就是偏把一个号练到35级练成蒙古骑兵。能砍能射能骑马能步战。每个种类型的地图都能拿到好成绩。可是人算不如天算。抵不过作者你减我熟练,扣我强弓!你真行!

所以,当你把游戏改真实了 自然就平衡了。你一味的削弱某职业。只能是个笑话。


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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2014, 11:25:23 am »
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Now I'm convinced all butthurt posts should be written in translated Chinese, +1 from me good sir. Your suggestions suck though.

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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2014, 11:49:04 am »
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My proposal is very reasonable, if you don't use can only say that you are not suitable for games. You are fit to be a programmer


我的提议已经是非常非常合理的了,如果你不采用 只能说你不适合做游戏。你适合去做程序员
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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2014, 11:58:28 am »
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Your proposals are not reasonable. How is "manoeuvring cavalry down to the donkey's degree" reasonable ?

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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2014, 12:07:19 pm »
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In reality the horse may not like the game so that it has been illegal flexible. Because of the cavalry is too flexible and can act recklessly and care for nobody makes the cavalry and the shuttle in the crowd. Do you think this reasonable? Author CRPG
You're not like balance?
Here said the horse flexibility is arranged like a donkey instead of speed
Reduce the flexibility of the horses, now it is not realistic

现实中骑马 不可能像游戏里这样已经违法常理的灵活了。就因为骑兵实在太灵活 使得骑兵和骑射可以肆无忌惮的在人群里穿梭。你觉得这样合理吗?CRPG作者

你不是喜欢平衡吗?

这里说的马的灵活性设置成驴一样 而不是速度
把马的灵活性设置成驴一样 是打个比方 请不要钻牛角尖
反正现在的骑兵实在太灵活了
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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2014, 12:12:18 pm »
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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2014, 12:42:13 pm »
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Most people do not care about the history of realism, they care about fun. Therefore, the game is built around fun, for the majority who play balance. This includes ensuring that the remote is not too intense fighting game is played by big, because it has an amazing melee gameplay. No one will care at all M & B, if it has sub-par melee mechanics, but they will play a range of mechanical eventhough underdeveloped. There are not many choices for people who like to fight in the game, but there are lots of options for people who like to shoot things (even in a medieval environment)

Not to say that realism is not important in its own way, and I'm not saying that a strong range is more realistic (and especially not ride a horse shot), because we do not even have a real penetration systems, armor (chain plate than now playing much better on impermeable).

Just say, first and foremost aim of the game is a realistic way the developers have chosen, then it is balanced is fun.

大多数人不关心历史的现实主义,他们在乎的乐趣。因此,游戏是围绕乐趣,为广大谁玩平衡。这包括确保远程战斗并没有太强烈的游戏,是由大发挥,因为它有惊人的近战玩法。没有人会关心在所有M&B ,如果它有子相提并论混战力学,但他们将发挥eventhough的范围力学不发达。不会有太多的选择的人谁喜欢肉搏的游戏,但也有很多的选择的人谁喜欢拍摄的东西(即使在一个中世纪的环境中)

不是说现实主义是不重要的以自己的方式,而且我不是说强范围是比较现实的(而骑一匹马尤其不能拍摄),因为我们甚至没有一个真正的渗透系统,装甲(链板会比现在好得多对弹不渗透) 。

只是说,首先是游戏的目的是显示逼真的方式开发商选择了,那么它是平衡的是好玩。

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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2014, 01:57:37 pm »
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Someone confusing realism with fun, nothing to see here, move along.
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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2014, 02:33:53 pm »
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Might be I got it wrong, but the beginning of his post kind of makes me think he puts realism over balance.

Also, he wants to buff ranged, nerf cav and make shields more ubiquitous. Even if it's not about realism, these changes would obviously ruin the game.
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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2014, 04:31:42 pm »
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我所说的这几个关键点,修改后并不会影响游戏性娱乐性。而且又符合历史。 何乐而不为???
大家都可以尽情施展自己的本领
而不是现在这样被作者削弱再削弱
最强的矛自然有最强的盾去抵挡 而不是烂矛对烂盾
现在弓箭手被削弱成渣 还有什么乐趣?? 这就是你们要的乐趣? 

现在弓箭手弄成这样就叫平衡了?
这么多人怕射 为什么不加盾牌?
不加盾牌就别叫,凭什么就一次次的削弱弓箭手?
盾牌免加点完全就是为这些人准备的


The key point of what I say, and will not affect the game entertainment amended. But also in the history of.
Everyone can fully display their skills, rather than just by the author to weaken
Now the archer was weaken so is that fun? This is your pleasure?
Now the archers like this is called balance?
So many people are afraid of archers why not add the shield?
Without the shield why weakening archers?
The shield is ready for all these people
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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2014, 05:08:27 pm »
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The best shields resist the best spears.
There's no bad shields against the bad spears,
 and it doesn't exist even the good ones against the bad ones

最强的矛自然有最强的盾去抵挡
而不是烂矛对烂盾
更不是坚矛对烂盾!
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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2014, 08:26:18 pm »
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Maybe you should find someone who speaks both English and Chinese, because it's not very clear what you are trying to say.
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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2014, 09:06:15 pm »
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Why dont we hit him with his weapon? Use google translate to communicate!

Simplified:
我们为什么不打他与他的武器是什么?使用谷歌翻译沟通!

Traditional:
我們為什麼不打他與他的武器是什麼?使用谷歌翻譯溝通!


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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2014, 09:43:52 pm »
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I think the third world war will start because of some lazy ass Chinese diplomat using google translate to write a birthday greeting for President Bachmann.

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Re: Author and everyone came in, about game balance and Solutions
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2014, 01:17:00 am »
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