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Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« on: February 28, 2014, 08:53:00 pm »
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Since the most recent patch, most 95 speed and below weapons received a buff of +1 speed with a few exceptions. Here are some of the more notable weapons I see that may not have stood out much before:

1h:

Iron Battle Axe: One of the exceptions, +1 speed to 97. With 36 cut, it's quite a beast now.
Iron War Axe: Its brother, 96 speed and 37 cut.

Military Cleaver(?) I forget if this was 95 or 96 speed, but it's great either way.
Military Hammer: Even better than before, 94 to 95 speed will make quite the difference.

Arabian Cavalry Sword: Now top tier in both price and stats, this sword really doesn't have much of a weakness anymore.


2h: Return of Greatswords?

Two Handed Sword: Now 97 speed, a great intermediary between longsword and great sword.
Dadao: Even closer to the miaodao now with a cheaper price.
War Cleaver: Awesome power and length:speed ratio.
Goedendag(?): Forget if this was 95 speed or 96 in the past, quite a great weapon either way you look at it.

All greatswords: To me, the 117-121 length weapons stand out the most. 95 speed flambard sounds great. Interestingly, though, the Danish/German are only slightly slower than they were in the past, but now with slightly better power. Nodachi and flamberge are also looking pretty good, too.


Polearms:

Iron staff: 96 speed, great overheads and side swings. A knockdown machine if you can get a good bonk on the head.
Double Sided Lance: 1 speed away from war spear, can now rear horses, and its stab is absolutely devastating. Definitely a good weapon to loom.
Long War Axe: Now that it's only 2 speed away from the long axe, even players that prioritize speed might want to pick this up with the superior length.
Bec de Corbin: Was nerfed in the past, but now it has a huge second wind since it's quite great compared to other blunt/pierce weapons nowadays. Only 1 speed away from war spear.

Every long, swingy polearm: Glaive, Bardiche, Bill, Swiss halberd, the list goes on. The fix to left swings and most notably overheads makes for almost all swing directions of these weapons terrifying to deal with. The +1 speed helps even more.


As an aside, the angle on swings are narrower than before, too. Can't be too sloppy with the side swings.

Discuss. Any weapons you find interesting?

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2014, 09:37:34 pm »
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Wow, look at that, a change log -- kind of.

Bec OP.


In all seriousness, thanks for the synopsis -- pretty good information here. 
Most of the 1h weapons mentioned deserved the speed boost (iron axes, mil hammer), so it's appropriate.  They are still a bit slow for my taste though, but time will tell!
« Last Edit: February 28, 2014, 09:56:45 pm by Penitent »

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 09:54:03 pm »
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The Swiss Halberd now has a base speed of 92 with a 28p thrust and a 37 cut overhead that also has a bonus vs. shields. I was seriously contemplating renaming my STF to "Leatherface" after playing around with it the other day, because it felt like I was running around with a chainsaw.

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2014, 09:55:20 pm »
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yes because 1h really needed a buff, especially Arabian cav sword
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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2014, 10:52:49 pm »
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The most expensive elegant poleaxe has 28 blunt damage, lol why so low? why it so expensive? Imho it must have at least the same damage as a warhammer 31 blunt.

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 10:58:20 pm »
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Bec buffs?  :shock:
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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2014, 11:28:01 pm »
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Every long, swingy polearm: Glaive, Bardiche, Bill, Swiss halberd, the list goes on. The fix to left swings and most notably overheads makes for almost all swing directions of these weapons terrifying to deal with. The +1 speed helps even more.

What fix to overheads? Something recent?

I ask because I almost entirely stopped using this weapon after using it exclusively from 1-32 simply because overheads would simply go through people. Maybe this is packet loss or lag or whatever on my end, but it got to the point where I nearly traded it away.

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2014, 11:31:08 pm »
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What fix to overheads? Something recent?

I ask because I almost entirely stopped using this weapon after using it exclusively from 1-32 simply because overheads would simply go through people. Maybe this is packet loss or lag or whatever on my end, but it got to the point where I nearly traded it away.

nah, polearm overheads are bunk

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 11:35:51 pm »
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Polearm overhead literally has no hit detection so the buffs to its speed are irrelevant. I am not sure if the hit detection knows that the overhead has been sped up.

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 11:38:08 pm »
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Thank fuck I'm not the only one. Oh and I forgot to mention it was the Swiss Halberd that I was using.

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2014, 11:44:07 pm »
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It's likely just packetloss or lag that you guys are experiencing. I actually overbuffed the polearm overswing animation when I changed it several months ago. Instead of the polearm overhead hitting slower, it now hits faster than the two-handed overhead animation, and by quite a fair bit, actually.
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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2014, 12:41:02 am »
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It's likely just packetloss or lag that you guys are experiencing. I actually overbuffed the polearm overswing animation when I changed it several months ago. Instead of the polearm overhead hitting slower, it now hits faster than the two-handed overhead animation, and by quite a fair bit, actually.

Yeah I agree, my long axe overheads are scary fast atm (btw i have 20 ping so that helps a lot)
« Last Edit: March 01, 2014, 12:52:24 am by PsychoTwins »
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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2014, 01:04:09 am »
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yes because 1h really needed a buff, especially Arabian cav sword

You read this, and to you it looks like a 1h buff? Are you some sort of lunatic?

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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2014, 01:16:51 am »
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You read this, and to you it looks like a 1h buff? Are you some sort of lunatic?

Arab cav sword mostly, probably the last weapon in game that neeeded a buff. 2h sword and Bec buff was also unecessary.
And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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Re: Some good weapons with the recent speed buff
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2014, 03:42:15 am »
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Arab cav sword mostly, probably the last weapon in game that neeeded a buff. 2h sword and Bec buff was also unecessary.
i feel the buffs were completely necessary.
i see a lot more becs on the battlefield, and i like it that way. the slight buff is nothing game breaking and its better than nerfing everything to hell.
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