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Should players on defense get free gear?

Yes (current gear is fine).
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Yes (should be -2 quality and the cheapest gear...like tridents)
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No, this is strat not the "devs hold players' hands" club
8 (11.1%)

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Why do players on defense get free gear?
« on: February 21, 2014, 08:21:22 pm »
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 08:30:30 pm »
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 08:38:16 pm »
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Cracka you more stupid than normally?

It's so we won't have endless, pointless, boring naked battles like we used to in strat 1 and 2(?)
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 08:41:30 pm »
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naaah, attackers should have peasant gears.
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2014, 08:56:59 pm »
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Cracka you more stupid than normally?

It's so we won't have endless, pointless, boring naked battles like we used to in strat 1 and 2(?)

Buy some gear then.

And if you want to take that argument, fine (I left that as a caveat), but then the defenders should have -2 gear, and it should be the cheapest gear possible (i.e tridents, practice swords and wooden sticks), not axes and scythes. 
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 09:09:23 pm »
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People won't buy gear because they won't spend anything on an already lost battle.
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2014, 09:21:06 pm »
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People won't buy gear because they won't spend anything on an already lost battle.

So you're in the "the defenders should get free gear camp", I've got that from your first message.  You think they should be getting scythes and axes and not the cheapest gear (also -2 quality)? 
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2014, 09:24:18 pm »
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Free gear is fine.
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2014, 09:34:48 pm »
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Yes I can agree that free gear is fine.  But should players be getting scythes for their peasant gear (not -2 scythes mind you, which is all people can buy right now, but level 0 scythes)?

Scythes are 32 gold each.  Tridents are 2 gold each.  I'd say there's a pretty big difference in price between peasant gear that costs 2 gold per item and 32 gold per item. 
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2014, 09:39:44 pm »
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Once strat matures just a little bit it will be balanced and fine, and even poor defenders have a slither of chance, making uneven battles less pointless, and removing free wins.  You don't have a case.
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2014, 09:44:11 pm »
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I do have a case, this early on in strat the gear that defenders are getting is much better and more expensive than is feasible for attackers to have.  I think it will be that way for at least a few weeks, maybe into the next month+.  That means people essentially have free reign to roam around the map going for 350%+  trade bonuses, with basically no risk involved. 
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2014, 09:46:56 pm »
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When I saw the first battle my first thought was that they want us to play more as wandering bands of wannabes who may one day come to hold great places in the strat world. Being on a level playing field we woul have to fuck eachother in the open field and take from lesser foes.

I think this way the game starts like Warband SP, whereas last strat, with the votes, everyone started as fief owners.

 
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2014, 10:09:32 pm »
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I do have a case, this early on in strat the gear that defenders are getting is much better and more expensive than is feasible for attackers to have.  I think it will be that way for at least a few weeks, maybe into the next month+.  That means people essentially have free reign to roam around the map going for 350%+  trade bonuses, with basically no risk involved.

Yeah this is true. Free gear as a concept is pretty bad, why should someone stupid enough to not buy gear get some for free?
I don't mind having to fight "naked battles" against people, because free gear is pretty much that whenever you have armour anyways, the only time it actually makes a difference is early on in strategus where it becomes beneficial to NOT buy gear which is completely counter intuitive.

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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2014, 10:29:43 pm »
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its not really intuitive that peasants would choose to fight naked either. It's just absurd. Axes are also something peasants have laying around.
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Re: Why do players on defense get free gear?
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2014, 10:35:17 pm »
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It's only "OP" because strat started 5 days ago. You shouldn't be attacking within 3 days. There just isn't enough GOLD to do that.

For 150 troops with decent light armor is 4k. At this point, you need to rely on numbers over gear until you can afford gear.
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