Long Hafted Spiked Mace

[Jarlek]

Give it (and long hafted knobbed mace) some more weight for better knockdown chance and easier chance to blockstun enemy and it will be fine.

I mean, we can't actually have it being equally good as a 2h since that would ruin the whole idea of having 2h as the noob friendly class for people who are bad in melee.

[Prpavi]

why would you equal it to 2h swords, that makes no sense

[Macropus]

Yeah, no point in comparing it with twohanded blunt weapons. Polearms are comparable with polearms, twohanded - with twohanded. You can't really say what is better when you compare different weapon classes.

Now as I think about it, some weight buff wouldn't hurt, seeing as axes and bardiches weigh 3.5+, LHSM should weigh the same or even more. But otherwise it's good for its price and just overall good.

[dreadnok]

Spammable with a long reach? 2h swords have better reach and better speed, if you can spam someone with this weapon they just suck. And I don't need anything, this weapon on the other hand needs a BUFF BUFF BUFF.

The longsword is faster with stab so being ranged is actually you just getting into the swords range and the sword is faster . The right swing on this weapon has real good range, I'm knocked down 75 percent of the time I'm with this or a dumb piece of shit staff. Knockdown should also go by damage. A stick hitting heavy armor shouldn't be a knockdown

[Leesin]

Yeah, no point in comparing it with twohanded blunt weapons. Polearms are comparable with polearms, twohanded - with twohanded. You can't really say what is better when you compare different weapon classes.

Now as I think about it, some weight buff wouldn't hurt, seeing as axes and bardiches weigh 3.5+, LHSM should weigh the same or even more. But otherwise it's good for its price and just overall good.

You can compare considering there is a balance for each weapon class that also has a balance between the other weapon classes, otherwise you wouldn't be agreeing that it at least needs a weight buff when you compare it to just about every other weapon and most importantly the blunt weapons  . This is a huge lump of metal on the end of a thick wooden shaft, this shit should be heavy and get the weight bonus it deserves for being an unbalanced knock down weapon.

WEIGHT BONUS BUFF, HELL YEAH I DON'T EVEN USE THIS SHIT BUT I WANT TO SEE IT SMASHING my old friendETS ON THE BATTLEFIELD!!.

[Macropus]

You can compare considering there is a balance for each weapon class that also has a balance between the other weapon classes, otherwise you wouldn't be agreeing that it at least needs a weight buff when you compare it to just about every other weapon and most importantly the blunt weapons  . This is a huge lump of metal on the end of a thick wooden shaft, this shit should be heavy and get the weight bonus it deserves for being an unbalanced knock down weapon.

WEIGHT BONUS BUFF, HELL YEAH I DON'T EVEN USE THIS SHIT BUT I WANT TO SEE IT SMASHING my old friendETS ON THE BATTLEFIELD!!.

I think it needs more weight because of polearm axes and bardiches that weigh 3.5, but I don't compare it with twohanders. Basically every twohanded weapon is stonger than its polearm counterpart, but polearms have more versality and pikes so in general I think the balance between 2h and polearms is fine.

[Latvian]

it is my favourite polearm i have used it every generation as polearm i have played.

[Johammeth]

I'm a big fan of this weapon, having used it a lot, and I also own a +3 LHSM. It's not as weak as you suggest, but maybe a bit more weight (0.5 or so) would make it more balanced with the bar mace

One day, I will summon the moral fortitude to drag my eyes to the text portion of your posts.

Until then,
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[dreadnok]

Does arm extension add to range?

[Jona]

Does arm extension add to range?

Yes. This is why hoplite stab has more range than 2-directional or 4-directional polearm stab.

[rhaaz]

This is my main wep (Thugicus) i have used for years. They took away everything from it. Its hard to use with all the spam since the animations are slower than fuck. The stab is completely fucking worthless...it was "balanced" along time ago by a cunt...

[dreadnok]

Yes. This is why hoplite stab has more range than 2-directional or 4-directional polearm stab.

2h sword users almost fall on there face extending!

[MURDERTRON]

This is my main wep (Thugicus) i have used for years. They took away everything from it. Its hard to use with all the spam since the animations are slower than fuck. The stab is completely fucking worthless...it was "balanced" along time ago by a cunt...

The stab was secretly good up until the latest patch.  Although the damage was bad, it did not glance much and had just as high of a chance of knockdown as the swings.  A lot of people never saw it coming, and paid for that.

[Ronin]

Use Long Hafted Knobbed Mace