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They should buff this sword ?!

Yes ! Thay should add 2 thrust and 2 cut
Yes ! They should add 2 thrust and 1cut
Yes ! They should add 1 thrust and 1 cut
YES ! They should just do somethink with this sword
No ! Now it's okey

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Offline Legion_PL

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Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« on: February 17, 2014, 05:05:00 pm »
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COME ON ! ! !

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/crusader-sword/new/#new

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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2014, 05:05:56 pm »
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Did you need an extra thread for this. The sword has nice stats and compared to the Side Sword I would more likely use the Crusader Sword, thanks to a shorter length and 0.1 more weight.  :)
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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2014, 05:13:49 pm »
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What's the problem?  It's cheaper, hence the 2 less reach and 1 less thrust damage (but it's .1 weight heavier, which is good). 

If they buffed it, there'd be no need for the weapon, since it would just be a different looking side sword.
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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 05:21:51 pm »
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Blame 1 point making a huge difference. Originally, it was seemingly looking to be an Italian sword clone, lol.

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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 05:47:30 pm »
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Blame 1 point making a huge difference. Originally, it was seemingly looking to be an Italian sword clone, lol.

Did you ever find out if non-integer damage stats were an option? Crusader Sword would be the perfect candidate for 29.5 cut.

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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2014, 04:55:27 pm »
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So its a slightly weaker version of a sidesword that looks different. Dont get what the big deal is. The -2 range does kinda suck, but thats just about it. Imo opinion the stats are rather well placed. So kudos. Also as we can clearly see from the picture, its stab is equivalent of the broad short swords stab. Ever heard anyone complain about the Broad short swords stab being UP? I havent.....
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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2014, 05:28:22 pm »
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Did you ever find out if non-integer damage stats were an option? Crusader Sword would be the perfect candidate for 29.5 cut.
It has been stated in the past, it's not an option.
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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2014, 05:35:29 pm »
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Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt crusaders use normal arming sword?
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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2014, 10:08:22 pm »
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Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt crusaders use normal arming sword?
Some crusades took place in 15th century, when swords like this were used.
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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 08:54:01 am »
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Some crusades took place in 15th century, when swords like this were used.
http://www.myarmoury.com/review_alb_lansem.html

That still doesnt differ that much from the arming sword we already have. IMO a crusader kit can be easily made out of heraldic surcoat over mail (or heraldic tunic over mail), shield (optional), weapon, and great helmet (mandatory).
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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2014, 03:08:02 pm »
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 It is like that with 1h swords. There are only small cosmetic differences. But the more the merrier.

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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2014, 08:56:35 pm »
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I just wanted to point out that with the latest nerf to the Side Sword, the Crusader Sword has a niche again.

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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2014, 02:32:38 am »
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COME ON ! ! !

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/crusader-sword/new/#new

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-1 stab damage
+2 speed

I've always wanted a espada eslanova but with cut damage instead of pierce.

It would be faster but shorter than italian.
it would hit harder and be longer than espada (which would be stronger still because of the rediculous stab damage)
it would still be an inferior choice to the side sword.

since these are the obviously closest swords as far as function, closest being the italian, that would be the logical statistics. as it is now, it is a complete worthless piece of garbage. its too slow and too short, with low damage, and its expensive.

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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2014, 08:12:16 am »
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I have never used the thing, but stabby 1H swords are undervalued by a lot of players. In the current battle/siege metagame almost everyone has decent (45+) armor, and 1H stabs are quick and easy to pull off even in tight spaces. I think the crusader sword could use a buff of 1 speed, but I think the main reason it isn't used much is that many players have access to +3 heirloomed weapons that outclass a +0 crusader sword in everything. The +3 version doesn't offer anything special compared to other +3 stabby swords. It isn't worth burning 3 LP to make one when there are other options that cost way less (or are even free through clan armory).
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Re: Buff Crusader Sword LOOOL !!!
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2014, 03:17:16 pm »
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I have never used the thing, but stabby 1H swords are undervalued by a lot of players. In the current battle/siege metagame almost everyone has decent (45+) armor, and 1H stabs are quick and easy to pull off even in tight spaces. I think the crusader sword could use a buff of 1 speed, but I think the main reason it isn't used much is that many players have access to +3 heirloomed weapons that outclass a +0 crusader sword in everything. The +3 version doesn't offer anything special compared to other +3 stabby swords. It isn't worth burning 3 LP to make one when there are other options that cost way less (or are even free through clan armory).

The stabby 1h swords have a high ceiling (you can do insane damage on a held head strike with high speed bonus), but a lower floor (well-timed sideswings still glance and get you killed, and when your stabs are blocked you are stunned and left open to be hit). I think many folks are content to be consistent with an Elite Scimitar or something, even if they don't have the capability to 1-shot anyone.

Crusader Sword is pretty balanced with Side Sword now (trades 1p and 2cm for 1c), but has a late Medieval look instead of Renaissance. Renaissance gear doesn't fit well with most armors (only Black Armor and some of the cloth stuff).

To the poster above that wants a "cut Espada", you could say the Liuyedao and Niuweidao kind of fill that niche, although they are Eastern and 3d. I see what you mean though, a European sword in that class would be nice.

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