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New Knockdown
« on: February 17, 2014, 04:56:37 pm »
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I know it's a random chance, so maybe I was just unlucky -- but I played all evening yesterday (about 3 hours) and got exactly TWO knockdowns with a +3 Warhammer, 8 PS -- the whole time.

Maybe I was hitting with all body shots?  I don't know.  It seems remarkably low though.

Anyone else that can share experiences?

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2014, 05:51:53 pm »
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I know it's a random chance, so maybe I was just unlucky -- but I played all evening yesterday (about 3 hours) and got exactly TWO knockdowns with a +3 Warhammer, 8 PS -- the whole time.

Maybe I was hitting with all body shots?  I don't know.  It seems remarkably low though.

Anyone else that can share experiences?

I was using your same warhammer (only 7PS), and did notice fewer overall knockdowns. However, peasants seemed to get knocked down a lot, and overheads were dropping even pretty fat players with decent regularity. My only suggestions would be to overhead a lot, and adjust your longitudinal camera angle so left swings hit the head more often. And of course hold for ~0.5s when you can.

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2014, 06:28:47 pm »
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I was using your same warhammer (only 7PS), and did notice fewer overall knockdowns. However, peasants seemed to get knocked down a lot, and overheads were dropping even pretty fat players with decent regularity. My only suggestions would be to overhead a lot, and adjust your longitudinal camera angle so left swings hit the head more often. And of course hold for ~0.5s when you can.

Oops, I have 7 PS too.  I accidentally buffed myself.
I'll give it some more testing, I was just alarmed at first.  It's random though, so hard to test.

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 06:42:10 pm »
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Also, refer to your warhammer as "Plumbobane". Although I don't think I've got any knockdowns with it against Plumbo since the patch, it still lives up to its namesake. Dude can block my 101 speed sword all day, but I guess the hammer puts the fear in him. I can relate; I go full retard around long mauls.
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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 06:54:43 pm »
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Old knockdown was just easymoding , people were hiding behind their shields and whenever they catch a moment they were using their knockhitkickhit combo and getting retarded kills, now they will have to aim to head and legs for knockdowns , so its more skill based.


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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2014, 06:57:20 pm »
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Old knockdown was just easymoding , people were hiding behind their shields and whenever they catch a moment they were using their knockhitkickhit combo and getting retarded kills, now they will have to aim to head and legs for knockdowns , so its more skill based.

This probably affects pole and 2h knockdown weapons more than 1h; most 1h animations naturally hit the head anyway.

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2014, 07:04:05 pm »
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This probably affects pole and 2h knockdown weapons more than 1h; most 1h animations naturally hit the head anyway.

But they re easier to avoid, so you need to make different moves (feinting while turning around for ex.) , which will usually not hit the head.


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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2014, 07:57:16 pm »
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Also, refer to your warhammer as "Plumbobane". Although I don't think I've got any knockdowns with it on Plumbo since the patch, it still lives up to its namesake. Dude can block my 101 speed sword all day, but I guess the hammer puts the fear in him. I can relate; I go full retard around long mauls.

Interesting...so you're Plumbo on the strat map. 

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2014, 08:02:04 pm »
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Interesting...so you're Plumbo on the strat map. 

No, Plumbo is Plumbo. I borrow this hammer from amoury specifically when I play NA2 and see Plumbo is on, because no mortal weapon can harm him (loomed plate, lots of HP).

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2014, 08:02:52 pm »
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Plumbo is a pretty tough sucker, I have to agree.
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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2014, 08:10:25 pm »
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Oh I thought there was someone named plumbo...just thought that maybe that was you incongito.

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2014, 08:31:45 pm »
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I have 6 PS with +3 military hammer and I seem to get a lot of knockdowns, I guess I do use a lot of overhead swings combined with left swings, meaning I probably hit heads quite often. I'd say if you have 7 PS and a +3 warhammer and youre not getting many knockdowns, ever, youre not hitting their heads lol.

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2014, 10:16:59 pm »
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I guess the hammer puts the fear in him. I can relate; I go full retard around long mauls.

The War Hammer scares the hell out of me, when HG and EON are on same team i think "awh hell". I've wanted one for about a year myself.

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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2014, 10:33:34 pm »
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Still getting lots n' lots of knocky knockdowns with a Bar Mace, doesn't feel like anything changed.
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Re: New Knockdown
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2014, 10:35:45 pm »
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Still getting lots n' lots of knocky knockdowns with a Bar Mace, doesn't feel like anything changed.

Bar mace is heavier than the blunt 1h's.  I think the change was mainly aimed at affecting 1h's with knockdown.
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