Author Topic: Crusader Sword?  (Read 3255 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Phew

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 775
  • Infamy: 132
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Phew_XVI
Crusader Sword?
« on: February 17, 2014, 03:27:28 pm »
0
Does this have a model in-game yet? Anyone have a screenshot?

Crusader Sword
weapon length: 93
weight: 1.5
difficulty: 11
speed rating: 99
weapon length: 93
thrust damage: 26 pierce
swing damage: 29 cut
slots: 1
6,756

Stats are overtly worse than the Side Sword (and even the Broad Short Sword, IMHO), but new models are always welcome.

Offline Rico

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1021
  • Infamy: 158
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Rico, Mila
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2014, 03:30:53 pm »
0
Of course judging weapons is a matter of taste, but statwise, I consider this a better Italian Sword. Italian is too long imo, and look how the Crusader Sword differs from Italian when you make them +3 :P
Streaming cRPG, Supreme Commander and Age of Empires II on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeavenTV

Offline Phew

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 775
  • Infamy: 132
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Phew_XVI
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2014, 03:35:17 pm »
+1
Of course judging weapons is a matter of taste, but statwise, I consider this a better Italian Sword. Italian is too long imo, and look how the Crusader Sword differs from Italian when you make them +3 :P

Yeah, the 1h swords of 92-95 cm reach seem to be the "sweet spot" for good reach but less prone to glancing on ground/teammates/etc. And the extra +1 pierce at Masterwork did not go unnoticed (it's one of the reasons I like my BSS so much). Anyone have a screenshot?

Offline zagibu

  • cRPG President
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1436
  • Infamy: 228
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2014, 04:01:19 pm »
+8
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
 Why am I beswung by sharpe and pointed utensyls?

Offline Phew

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 775
  • Infamy: 132
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Phew_XVI
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 04:10:52 pm »
0
Thanks Zagibu! Looks nice.

Offline Casimir

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1756
  • Infamy: 271
  • cRPG Player Sir White Bishop A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • The Dashing Templar
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Knights Templar
  • Game nicks: Templar_Casimir
  • IRC nick: Casimir
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2014, 04:11:32 pm »
0
The model has been in the game for ages. Don't know why it wasn't implemented before.
Turtles

Offline Legion_PL

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 53
  • Infamy: 37
  • cRPG Player
  • LoLo
    • View Profile
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2014, 04:57:59 pm »
+2
HAHAHA THIS SWORD IT"S SHIT !!!

Look !

It's just worse Said Sword !!! :OO

visitors can't see pics , please register or login



LoLo

I think thay should buff this !!!
"Umieramy za tych którzy nie chcą umierać"

                                                      Jan Twardowski

Offline Legion_PL

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 53
  • Infamy: 37
  • cRPG Player
  • LoLo
    • View Profile
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2014, 05:05:31 pm »
0
"Umieramy za tych którzy nie chcą umierać"

                                                      Jan Twardowski

Offline Moncho

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1127
  • Infamy: 221
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Moncho, Some_Random_STF, Some_Random_Troll
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2014, 05:07:14 pm »
0
Sexyyyy, shame it will make me retire one more time :(
Can we get full patchnotes any time soon? I just realised coloured lances are in, anything else?

Offline CrazyCracka420

  • Minute Valuable Contributor
  • Strategus Councillor
  • **
  • Renown: 1950
  • Infamy: 794
  • cRPG Player Sir White Pawn A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • Welp
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Vaegirs
  • Game nicks: Huseby
  • IRC nick: Steam name: crazycracka420
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2014, 05:15:48 pm »
0
Seems fine to me...it's cheaper than a side sword, and has 2 less reach and 1 less thrust damage than a side sword (but .1 more weight). 
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
 - Stolen from Macropussy

Offline Phew

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 775
  • Infamy: 132
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Phew_XVI
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2014, 05:20:29 pm »
+1
It must be so hard to balance 1h with the constraint that damage values must be integers. Making the Crusader Sword 29.5 Cut damage would make it perfectly balanced with Side Sword, for instance. Instead it's slightly inferior (although slightly inferior to an OP weapon is still very good).

Offline Penitent

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1389
  • Infamy: 220
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Penitent_Turtler
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2014, 12:45:17 am »
0
Longer length is in general better in my experience.

Hmm, I think it's worse than the italian sword, (trade -1 cut for +1 p is not worth it imo)
Worse than the arming sword (same)
Worse than the broad short sword (+5 length for -1 speed and -1 cut, not worth it)



However, it looks cooler than most of those!
« Last Edit: February 22, 2014, 12:48:35 am by Penitent »

Offline Kafein

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 2203
  • Infamy: 808
  • cRPG Player Sir White Rook A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2014, 12:48:39 am »
0
I'd make it 98 speed and 30c on swings, although that's probably an existing 1h too.

Offline Penitent

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1389
  • Infamy: 220
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Penitent_Turtler
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2014, 12:53:02 am »
0
I'd make it 98 speed and 30c on swings, although that's probably an existing 1h too.

That would be pretty good in my book.  It matches some other swords, but then this one would trade length (93) for a better stab.

It's ok to copy stats of other weapons (look at italian sword and arming sword).
The model diversity is worth having near "duplicates".  Same with armor, as you can see.

Offline Artyem

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1218
  • Infamy: 264
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Knight
  • SODOM Shaman
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Dracul / Raven / SODOMY
  • Game nicks: Artyem
Re: Crusader Sword?
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2014, 01:01:24 am »
+2
This is definitely what the game needed.  Another short stabby one handed sword, it fits perfectly with the generic white knight themed crusader clans.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Sordida asinum latronibus sumus