Author Topic: Ranged stagger removed (Update: made much more rare)  (Read 11673 times)

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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2014, 05:26:02 pm »
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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2014, 05:26:43 pm »
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It's gone from stun (the short duration one), but not from stagger (the extremely obnoxious long duration one).

I've been testing with my 18 24 longbower, and I've not hit a stagger, or been dealt one yet.

The change looks good though, can we have our mobility back now?

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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2014, 05:34:21 pm »
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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2014, 05:42:31 pm »
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Ranged and pole stun removed so they act the same as 1h or 2h hits. Stagger still exists for ranged, but they have to do more damage than before, to pass the damage requirement.

Values might change later today, though.

About time :)

Good initiative Tydeus  :wink:  :arrow: "You have balls, i like balls"
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2014, 05:48:22 pm »
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Don't get too excited guys, you'll be probably getting shot a lot more now. Because when people stopped moving after getting shot, many incoming projectiles missed because the predicted path was interrupted. But with constant motion, your path will remain predictable for any ranged targeting you. One less distraction for ranged.

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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2014, 05:53:38 pm »
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more indirect nerfs to my throwing daggers, i r saddest
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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2014, 06:01:29 pm »
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- tweaked thrust sweetspots

When i started the launcher and saw an update i´ve read it ... thought like;"Nah Shields nice fix, stun... i dont care, seems like an good one"

Didnt really realized the tweaked thrust sweetspot ... but when i joined and played for abit i just got mad .... 9 out of 10 thrusts are softspots on ninjaclothing!?
And the worst thing is: ITS NOT AFFECTING 2H!
Its the first time im seriously disappointed not like after every nerf: Gnaah im getting nerfed blabla, but ill keep playing anyway.
This time its just ... you made an huuuuge mistake... a guy who was on teamspeak with me couldnt thrust an sumpter horse with his german poleaxe, why? He glanced ...

I mean i got used to it that 2h were superior to my weapons in all belongings ... they are having an longer thrust and you can spam it, overall an easy class which i regret to play ... but now im just softspotting everyone at every range close or far. Its embarassing.
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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2014, 06:08:22 pm »
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Tydeus!
dont worry I don't want to plame you. I only want to request some numbers and graphs about the stab tweak, lenght for rearing horses, new 2h to 1h malus etc.
You gave some nice graphs the last time.
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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2014, 06:19:22 pm »
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more indirect nerfs to my throwing daggers, i r saddest

The final tweak to ranged soak/reduce should have buffed low req throwing. (Base damage up by like a point or two, but still).

 Not sure how I feel about the polearm change, was used to how it was for so long. Won't be able to play until tomorrow.

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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2014, 06:24:22 pm »
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I've been testing with my 18 24 longbower, and I've not hit a stagger, or been dealt one yet.

Damage threshold has been reduced a bit in the next update (also reduced even more + increased chance for leg hits).

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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2014, 06:24:31 pm »
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Fist chambers still not re-implemented?

Le disapoint  :|



I applaud the other changes.

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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2014, 06:25:40 pm »
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- tweaked thrust sweetspots

When i started the launcher and saw an update i´ve read it ... thought like;"Nah Shields nice fix, stun... i dont care, seems like an good one"

Didnt really realized the tweaked thrust sweetspot ... but when i joined and played for abit i just got mad .... 9 out of 10 thrusts are softspots on ninjaclothing!?
And the worst thing is: ITS NOT AFFECTING 2H!
Its the first time im seriously disappointed not like after every nerf: Gnaah im getting nerfed blabla, but ill keep playing anyway.
This time its just ... you made an huuuuge mistake... a guy who was on teamspeak with me couldnt thrust an sumpter horse with his german poleaxe, why? He glanced ...

I mean i got used to it that 2h were superior to my weapons in all belongings ... they are having an longer thrust and you can spam it, overall an easy class which i regret to play ... but now im just softspotting everyone at every range close or far. Its embarassing.

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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2014, 06:28:27 pm »
+10
WAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAA PLEASE BUFF MY AWLPIKE STABS MORE BECAUSE I`M A SHIT PLAYER AND I CAN ONLY ABUSE THE AWLPIKE STAB WAAAAAAAAAAA WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAWAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2014, 06:30:12 pm »
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WAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAA PLEASE BUFF MY AWLPIKE STABS MORE BECAUSE I`M A SHIT PLAYER AND I CAN ONLY ABUSE THE AWLPIKE STAB WAAAAAAAAAAA WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAWAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Could you stop beeing total dickheads? I dont care about a buff, or my weapon. I just want to make such stupid patches gone, Back ladders - no fistchambering cause its idiotic ... and that patch is just bad.
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Re: Ranged stun removed
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2014, 06:31:29 pm »
+3
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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