Bring back Ladders, Seriously..

[Prpavi]

Seriously... No

[Voncrow]

Personally, I don't see the point of ladders on battle, laddering up to roofs does seem unfair to me. So allow them on duel(already used for practicing building why not ladder throwing) and siege. It would make siege a lot more dynamic, not just people camping specific spots, we'd actually need to watch the rest of the wall. I know I would find siege a lot more fun, and the 4 slots idea from some guy was also good.

[Keshian]

Only fun thing about battles anymore would be ladders - otherwise boring and repetitive.  We desperately need ladders.

[Tydeus]

Maybe after we manage to fix MotF not ending rounds 1/3 of the time. Until then, it can't really be considered. Although archers have been nerfed in a few ways since the last time we had ladders in battle, they're currently much more accurate and also dealing slightly more damage than they were back then. Weight isn't much of nerf when you're on top of a house camping, you're essentially just a turret at that point.

[MURDERTRON]

Maybe after we manage to fix MotF not ending rounds 1/3 of the time. Until then, it can't really be considered. Although archers have been nerfed in a few ways since the last time we had ladders in battle, they're currently much more accurate and also dealing slightly more damage than they were back then. Weight isn't much of nerf when you're on top of a house camping, you're essentially just a turret at that point.

But horse archers are OK.

[Tydeus]

Define "OK". They did just get nerfed harder than any other class with the most recent patch.

[Leesin]

Horse archers are the most nerfed build in the game so yeah they're more than ok.

[Moncho]

Nostalgia goggles are a very bad thing to see the world through. Honestly, I still sometimes have nightmares about ladders in battle.
About motf, even if it changes to say 10 people remaining, what if there are 12 people on various roofs? It happens more often than not.
What about staying on top of the building after the ladder gets destroyed? What if a friendly destroys it? What if?...
On paper, they may be a great idea, but not with this community that will exploit every single minor detail they can

[Snufalufagus]

Beringer genious!

[_GTX_]

Only fun thing about battles anymore would be ladders - otherwise boring and repetitive.  We desperately need ladders.

And which class do you mostly play again?

[Andswaru]

IF ladders ever return, im preety sure 100% of my time would then definatly be devoted to warthunder or paradox strategy trash.

[Thranduil]

Let me look at this from a map maker's perspective.

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[Kafein]

Let me look at this from a map maker's perspective.

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Just don't put any building or tree on battle maps, as any map maker worth his salt would do.

[Tanken]

Maybe after we manage to fix MotF not ending rounds 1/3 of the time. Until then, it can't really be considered. Although archers have been nerfed in a few ways since the last time we had ladders in battle, they're currently much more accurate and also dealing slightly more damage than they were back then. Weight isn't much of nerf when you're on top of a house camping, you're essentially just a turret at that point.

Yeah the MOTF bug is annoying as hell with it getting stuck. I still think that Ladders (at this point I'd separate it to EU and NA if they want it or not) should strongly be considered being brought back by the Dev team. Ladders may be nostalgic, but they're also becoming dust-collectors on our c-rpg page. Many new players see Ladders and other Siege Equipment items and buy them--only to find out they can only use them in Duel of all places :/

If balanced correctly with the current MOTF setup and class balances, and with potential changes to the ladder slot system as Zagibu mentioned briefly and a limit on them per-side--they could be done. I would not consider it a moot point or dead cause at this point--if anything it should be something for the Dev Team to discuss and see if there is a good, solid way to re-implement them and make it optional for the separate servers.

[Fips]

Just don't put any building or tree on battle maps, as any map maker worth his salt would do.

Battle maps have been made and edited without having to worry about the ladders for like 2 years now. This is far beyond the simple motf change i had to do one or two patches ago. If there is anyone out there who would want to edit like 80 maps just to bring those goddamn ladders back, sure. I know i won't.