Shield is very bad shield

[karasu]

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[sF_Guardian]

This thread is getting derailed, like every thread in this forum gets at some point the second post.

[Prpavi]

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[Kafein]

I don't understand the hate though. Those 13 shield skill guys are very useful in DTV and don't hurt anybody. If the devs believe that makes DTV too easy, I'm sure they'll do something.

[musketer]

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Put that shit in spoiler ffs 

[Prinz_Karl]

If undestroyable shields are removed please also nerf the bots and give them normal stats, AND remover chambering from bots they are already blocking in 4 directions.

[Leshma]

I don't understand the hate though. Those 13 shield skill guys are very useful in DTV and don't hurt anybody. If the devs believe that makes DTV too easy, I'm sure they'll do something.

They are useful because they exploit poor AI and aggro bots. But this is not MMORPG and such play style isn't what DTV should be about. As Fips said, it will be fixed in the future.

I have no problem with Chinese players doing it, because they play that cause they really have no other choice (ever tried melee with 350 ping?) Also Chinese players who do that know how to do it, where to stand. EU newcommers don't and despite having 13 shield skill they get killed during first wave. Chinese players only get killed because noob archers th/tk them or some "funny" drunk dude won't leave them alone, constantly nudging/kicking them. That is way ROSE_naluoto reports players so much. Too many dumb people who find harassing amusing.

[Leshma]

If undestroyable shields are removed please also nerf the bots and give them normal stats, AND remover chambering from bots they are already blocking in 4 directions.

No. Great XP and gold should be awarded to capable players. If 25 out of 30 players are completely useless, they should never go past nomad wave. Until they learn to play. DTV is quite simple, takes only two or three type of builds. One are shielders who form shield walls, rest are damage dealers. You don't even need expensive gear for it. But it's full of leechers who won't even take 2000 gold Two Handed War Axe. I can pull it off with a pitchfork, that's because I can use any weapon bots drop. Most players can't do that.

[Nightmare798]

No. Great XP and gold should be awarded to capable players. If 25 out of 30 players are completely useless, they should never go past nomad wave. Until they learn to play. DTV is quite simple, takes only two or three type of builds. One are shielders who form shield walls, rest are damage dealers. You don't even need expensive gear for it. But it's full of leechers who won't even take 2000 gold Two Handed War Axe. I can pull it off with a pitchfork, that's because I can use any weapon bots drop. Most players can't do that.

Wait are you telling people how to play DTV now?

[Leshma]

No use telling you anything, you're just annoying forum wannabe troll who's abysmal at the game. You also lack basic intellectual abilities.

DTV is incredibly easy to play when everyone is doing his job. With just 10 players it's easy to get to tincans, but everyone must kill at least few bots per wave which really isn't that hard because they are bots. All it takes are basic blocking skills (like mine, because I'm not very good at blocking) and knowledge of bots behavior.

About shields. I used to have 1 Shield skill and was using Old Heater Shield for a long time (before all these shield buff occured). Rarely if ever got hit by archers. That's because you can point a shield in a direction where projectile is coming from, therefore blocking it. But most don't do that, get hit from above and qq, shields broken.

[Nightmare798]

No use telling you anything, you're just annoying forum wannabe troll who's abysmal at the game. You also lacks basic intellectual abilities.

such hate
wow

DTV is incredibly easy to play when everyone is doing his job. With just 10 players it's easy to get to tincans, but everyone must kill at least few bots per wave which really isn't that hard because they are bots. All it takes are basic blocking skills (like mine, because I'm not very good at blocking) and knowledge of bots behavior.

I see no problem with anyone using 13 shield skill. Why is it so bad?

About shields. I used to have 1 Shield skill and was using Old Heater Shield for a long time (before all these shield buff occured). Rarely if ever got hit by archers. That's because you can point a shield in a direction where projectile is coming therefore blocking it. But most don't do that, get hit from above and qq, shields broken.

I call bs when one sidestep is enough for some random 2H/polearm junkie to bend their fucking weapon over my shield and hit me. The actual melee shield coverage is pretty shitty tbh.

[Mala]

thx to the archer lobby shields do not work against missiles anymore.

[Leshma]

such hate
wow

Hate? Guess calling things with a proper name is called hate these days. Prove me wrong.

[sF_Guardian]

That quiet mode didn't last long Leshma, your retardation grows again

[Leshma]

Quiet mode as, CTRL+SHIFT+M while playing the mod. Can't bother to listen to random chit-chat of bunch a 14 years old.