Armored horses

[Templar_Steevee]

Horses are for me big, running banks of points.
Ranged are shooting horses because thay are their really dangerous oponents, and also it's helping your team to win.

I sometimes can deal with 1 cav guy in open field, but 2 are just deadly (especially 1h cav).

Heavy cav is not OP, they are paying hi upkeep for those heavy horses, but they are also quite easy to shoot down.

It's also true, that it's faster to kill rider than horse (on strat battles many times 1 horse could survive 2 or 3 riders )

[Mlekce]

i love catapract or mamluk horsie,just go and laugh at archers not dmging it. 


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[Tzar]

I hate the fact, that we are forced to use these horses cause of ranged....

I miss riding my courser or destrier...... 

[Mlekce]

Ye,u need to be very dumb to ride destrier,rouncey,courser or some of this "heavy" horses in middle like barded or war horse,they are just too weak.
2 arrows and they are down.

[Templar_Steevee]

i love catapract or mamluk horsie,just go and laugh at archers not dmging it. 


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let me try to kill your horsie 

[MountedRhader]

My courser usually dies every round, and my plated charger's only use is to charge in like a tank and run sh!t over. You take that away, and it's useless. Besides, it frequently gets reared in a group of people with a tiny little polearm, and I'm dead. And then they surround and gang bang my poor charger.


Dev's, don't listen to OP. He's trying to poison your minds

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Ride with us, use armored horses, even if they are weak! TO DEATH, FOR THERE IS NO OTHER WAY! TO DEATH, WITH ARMORED HORSES! TO DEATH!

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WE RIDE INTO BATTLE TO OUR DEATHS with such horses! But they mustn't be nerfed any longer!

[Tyr_]

I'd give you a +1 because you love heavy horses, but i want to give you an infinite amount of -1's because you mix the speech at Helms Deep with pictures from the Ride of the Rohirrim.

[Angantyr]

Never said they needed to be nerfed, just made less attractive (edit: ranged patch seems to have helped though). There were just too many of them similar to if all infantry were running around in plate armor. Variation suffers if something is generally just a better choice than most everything else.

[Templar_Steevee]

Never said they needed to be nerfed, just made less attractive (edit: ranged patch seems to have helped though). There were just too many of them similar to if all infantry were running around in plate armor. Variation suffers if something is generally just a better choice than most everything else.

ATM heavy horses works like they should.
Today i were shooting at +3 plated cherger I shot him 4 times in body (longbow and bodkins on +3), shokoshugi shot it twice (horn bow and tatar arrows +3), one loomed bolt and one more unloomed arrow from bow. That horse was still alive... like it should 
my friend mounted it and said that it have like 7% hp left, and IMO its ok

[Tzar]

Steevee, the only archer in-game that have common sense.

Thumbs up 

[Templar_Steevee]

Steevee, the only archer in-game that have common sense.

Thumbs up 

I know you hate me anyway ^^

IMO every time when you are using expensive gear you shoul have some benefits.

If you sacrefice your time for looming equipment changes should be also noticable.

You can see those benefits almost everywhere, but not in bows after one of patches. Getting accuracy and speed is nice , but with other weapons you can see changes in dmg also. it would be nice to see that change in bows too.

[Tovi]

Does it really matter?

A horse can run for 7 minutes without any fatigue.

[Xeen]

The main things that I'll add to this are.....  If ranged didn't exist, arabian would be an absolute god among horses.  It almost feels too easy with that amount of maneuverability.  Also, plated charger is incredibly niche in it's uses, but it still does definitely serve a unique purpose on occasion.  That being said, it's probably still pretty bad when stacked up against the next 4 heaviest horses in practically all situations.

[CrazyCracka420]

Horses are for me big, running banks of points.
Ranged are shooting horses because thay are their really dangerous oponents, and also it's helping your team to win.

I sometimes can deal with 1 cav guy in open field, but 2 are just deadly (especially 1h cav).

Heavy cav is not OP, they are paying hi upkeep for those heavy horses, but they are also quite easy to shoot down.

It's also true, that it's faster to kill rider than horse (on strat battles many times 1 horse could survive 2 or 3 riders )

Bullshit, archers never shot my horse before "score" and valor were in the game.

[Templar_Steevee]

Bullshit, archers never shot my horse before "score" and valor were in the game.

maybe, but since there is a point system some archers and other ranged are shooting horses for points and to be shure that you are not going to backstab them.

Since i started to play this mod i always shoot horses, clanmates were also asking "Steevee, kill that pony pls"