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Would you like extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner?

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Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« on: January 05, 2014, 01:42:50 pm »
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We all love teamplay, don't we? The problem is the lack of it.

This idea, if implemented, will not solve this problem but it will increase teamplay to some extent.

Just like you get get extra points (score) for being near a fight I suggest you get extra experience from being near to a teamate holding a banner.
So on each regular XP tick some players (the ones "teamplaying") gets extra experience.

To get extra XP you must be within, say 20 meters radius from a banner at the moment of the tick.
To prevent people going off on their own with a banner trying to get extra XP there must be a minimum amount of players around the banner carrier, for example 10 players.
Being within 2 or more banners won't give you twice as much extra xp.

There won't be just one banner/flag but several.
So if people want to flank they can still take a banner.

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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 01:50:45 pm »
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Maybe not for xp, but for +1 ironflesh?
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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 01:08:40 pm »
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QSDF    I'm defending the [F]lag!
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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 01:14:05 pm »
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The problem is that gank squads are not about "good" teamplay. That splitting the team or going even solo is not a viable option anymore, but either you are always in the group or you get fucked by ranged or cav so hard that the only other option is to play siege. BS score system supports that type of play aswell. You think following like the lemmings one flag to have one big stand of should be the only viable tactical approach for battle? Hell no.
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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2014, 01:27:44 pm »
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Kinngrimm has a good point. This would punish people who are trying to flank the enemy, and overall it would just turn the battle into a 2 big brainless mobs charging at each other round after round.

What about ranged and cav?

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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2014, 01:29:33 pm »
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Like the idea, bringing back pre-ragepatch XP system without forcing it onto players. Only downside I see is that "ninjas" doesn't get the hard earned XP they deserve.
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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2014, 01:39:54 pm »
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so whats stopping troll muppets moving the banner all over the place at there free will, to stop others from getting this teamplay reward bonus?
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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2014, 02:20:17 pm »
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so whats stopping troll muppets moving the banner all over the place at there free will, to stop others from getting this teamplay reward bonus?
That could be solved by binding flags to be only used by commander which are voted in.
But still not the issue for me, trolls you can handle also by kicks/bans, but how do you get "good" teamplay with viable tactical playstyles other then gank?
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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2014, 02:54:34 pm »
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The problem is that gank squads are not about "good" teamplay. That splitting the team or going even solo is not a viable option anymore, but either you are always in the group or you get fucked by ranged or cav so hard that the only other option is to play siege. BS score system supports that type of play aswell. You think following like the lemmings one flag to have one big stand of should be the only viable tactical approach for battle? Hell no.

You clearly didn't read what I suggested.
You can have 3 groups earning extra xp, for example.

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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 02:56:43 pm »
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so whats stopping troll muppets moving the banner all over the place at there free will, to stop others from getting this teamplay reward bonus?

Kick/ban by one of the many admins we have.

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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2014, 03:36:46 pm »
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I have to agree with this suggestion, it would make the battles a lot more tactical and funny. The current battles in EU_1 are just stupid because eveyone runs around alone like mad lost cows so this future would bring more teamplay and better battles.

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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2014, 03:52:05 pm »
+1
Ninjas have never been rewarded for solo efforts as far as I can remember.

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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2014, 04:15:26 pm »
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You clearly didn't read what I suggested.
You can have 3 groups earning extra xp, for example.
while i did, i didnt conenct all dots about multiple banners what would happen then, my bad.

So what works better of late, gank or splitting? One or many banners?
Also on the flank with a small crew of 3 to 7 players, you dont use a banner to show the enemy where you are, that would be counter productive in my eyes.

Dont get me wrong i love everything what would ecourages teamplay on a higher level and i am willing to try this out, but there are a few other things which need to be considered.
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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2014, 05:04:25 pm »
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I must say I'm with kinngrimm in this. Flankers shouldn't be punished, while most of the team should be encouraged to teamplay. However, teamplay should be encouraged at all costs.

That's why I offered bonus ironflesh. The main group needs it since they will be attracting the main attention of the opposite side. Whereas, flankers do not necessarily need it. with xp bonus, you are just punishing flankers/ninjas. (and possibly xbowers, archers, cav of all kinds as well)


Plus, ironflesh is something that every class can use while it's usefulness only appears when some damage is taken. So that's why not power strike or something else. Just ironflesh.
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Re: Extra XP from being near to a teamate carrying a banner
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 12:46:06 am »
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Just to clarify: There won't be just one banner but several.
So if people want to flank they can still take a banner.