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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2013, 09:22:59 pm »
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why not buff shields a little instead of nerfing everything to hell?
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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2013, 09:23:55 pm »
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Misery and grief? Right!

Quit crying like a bitch...

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2013, 09:33:28 pm »
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why not buff shields a little instead of nerfing everything to hell?

Buffing shield resistances across the board might make them unintentionally too strong compared to resolving the problem directly.

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2013, 10:23:47 pm »
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This thing doesn't really benefit gameplay much if you ask me.
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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2013, 11:04:43 pm »
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Listen Sniger, go buy yourself Rust (you can get it cheap if you use TF2 keys) and take a break from cRPG for awhile. When you come back, things may improve or may not. But the thing is, we'll be closer to Melee or M&B2 if you prefer that. No need to get angry at something ancient as cRPG.

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2013, 11:08:27 pm »
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its not even crpg. Its an original warband feature afaik :P
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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2013, 11:09:39 pm »
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Listen Sniger, go buy yourself Rust (you can get it cheap if you use TF2 keys) and take a break from cRPG for awhile. When you come back, things may improve or may not. But the thing is, we'll be closer to Melee or M&B2 if you prefer that. No need to get angry at something ancient as cRPG.
It's so confusing when you change personality completely every two months.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2013, 11:18:12 pm »
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It's so confusing when you change personality completely every two months.

It's so awesome knowing that you won't be playing Melee alpha :wink:

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2013, 11:25:55 pm »
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It's so awesome knowing that you won't be playing Melee alpha :wink:
I don't recall the exact agreement for investing at all, but I'm fairly sure you could give spare codes out to friends.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2013, 11:27:11 pm »
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You have friends?

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2013, 11:28:44 pm »
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1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2013, 12:14:44 am »
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 :lol:

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2013, 12:20:54 am »
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moar mbg hype. lols

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2013, 02:41:13 pm »
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You probably never read my guide. So, I'll give you some tips how to avoid such frustrating situations (also, take into account that most of crossbowmen don't know how to do it properly).

1. Penetrating shields is dangerous when your enemy has heavy crossbow (Arbalest and Heavy Crossbow: you never know what particular crossbow he has unless you saw the reloading speed because both weapons have the same model). The margin of damage for shield penetration is "Shield body armour x 3 + 30", i.e. masterpiece heavy round shield has 19 body armour, so the penetrating damage should be at least "19x3+30=87". At this mark (87 damage, the raw damage of MW heavy xbow + MW steel bolts) it will penetrate the shield but won't do any damage.

2. Shields with high body armour are impossible to penetrate. Even +3 elite cavalry shield or +3 huscarl round shield are already almost impossible to shoot through and require a huge experience of a shooter. So if you're frustrated a lot - use elite cavalry shield/huscarl round shield/knightly kite shield/knightly heater shield/any plate shield.

3. Speed bonuses mean much. If you're facing an experienced crossbowman - try to move sideways. I move myself towards charging shielder to amplify speed bonus even more, it gives me some extra damage points. Just never charge an experienced crossbowman, even if he has a weak crossbow. When I used lighter crossbows I sometimes took risk to make this trick (watch video) but you have to remember that it's possible even with arbalest.

4. Head amplifies received damage, that's why I always try to shoot into the head/neck because even the weakest peasant shield absorbs some damage being penetrated or even destroyed. Sometimes I shoot into the body but I never shoot into the legs if I want to penetrate the shield because hitboxes of legs reduce incoming damage (I only shoot legs when I'm facing a buckler user as it's impossible to penetrate this shield). There are no weak spots of shields. Me or some other players can call them so but it's mostly body's weak spots, not shield's.

5. Don't be mad. If something frustrates you - there is always a counter frustrating method. If enemy shield is trying to penetrate your shield and lets you come too close - you can make a couple of side steps and nudge him - he will fall down. Most crossbowmen are not aware of this.

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Re: WTF is up with the shooting through shield?
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2013, 02:57:05 pm »
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We'll see who's going to be mad when they nerf xbow to the ground :D