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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2013, 06:24:56 pm »
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Being smart is when you stop doing stupid things, right?

Well, trolling I can't give up. It's too much fun. But the rest: rage quitting, giving away looms, retiring lvl 35 char, getting angry at developers, desperately trying to be friends with the likes of Panos and Zlisch... think I'll manage to avoid doing that from now on.

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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2013, 06:30:55 pm »
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2013, 06:58:44 pm »
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Being smart is when you stop doing stupid things, right?

Well, trolling I can't give up. It's too much fun. But the rest: rage quitting, giving away looms, retiring lvl 35 char, getting angry at developers, desperately trying to be friends with the likes of Panos and Zlisch... think I'll manage to avoid doing that from now on.
No, you stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things. To be smart you have to do smart things.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2013, 07:09:56 pm »
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What an educative thread.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2013, 07:17:00 pm »
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No, you stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things. To be smart you have to do smart things.
You don't stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things.
It in fact is very stupid to do nothing to avoid doing stupid things.
If you stop doing stupid things it only becomes harder for you invironment to tell whether you are stupid or not.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2013, 07:21:45 pm »
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If you stop doing stupid things it only becomes harder for you invironment to tell whether you are stupid or not.
Not if your enviroment is crpg community, they'll tell you that you're a dumb asshole my old friend regardless.

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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2013, 08:10:13 pm »
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You don't stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things.
It in fact is very stupid to do nothing to avoid doing stupid things.
If you stop doing stupid things it only becomes harder for you invironment to tell whether you are stupid or not.
That is a complete non sequitur. Nobody said you should "do nothing."
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2013, 08:23:26 pm »
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That is a complete non sequitur. Nobody said you should "do nothing."
this can't be a non sequitur because it was not meant to be a conclusion but an example.

But nice how you always try to degrade any given statement by refering to its logical grammar instead of refering to the thought behind it.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2013, 08:26:31 pm »
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this can't be a non sequitur because it was not meant to be a conclusion but an example.

But nice how you always try to degrade any given statement by refering to its logical grammar instead of refering to the thought behind it.
How does it work as an example when it is a non sequitur of what I said? I said you stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things. Not that you should do nothing, in fear of doing something stupid.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2013, 08:39:22 pm »
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How does it work as an example when it is a non sequitur of what I said? I said you stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things. Not that you should do nothing, in fear of doing something stupid.
OK
I say: not being stupid =/=not doing stupid things.

premises: a) being stupid =not avoiding being hurt.
               b) doing nothing = not doing stupid things.

case : A hammer falls towards somebodies head. he could easy avoid it.
 in this case not doing stupid things(doing nothing (b)) = being stupid(not avoiding being hurt(a))

therefore you sentence 'you stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things' is wrong.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2013, 09:11:45 pm »
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That's retarded. Unless you think doing nothing when a hammer is falling on you is smart, it's stupid. Therefore, your whole chain of logic is invalid.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2013, 09:12:50 pm »
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That's retarded. Unless you think doing nothing when a hammer is falling on you is smart, it's stupid. Therefore, your whole chain of logic is invalid.

Whahahaha
read again
even one of my premisses says: not avoiding pain is stupid.

Just stop playing the smartass if you have no clue.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2013, 09:15:54 pm »
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Yes, exactly, not avoiding pain is stupid. That is my whole point. Again, therefore, your chain of logic is invalid.
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2013, 09:27:41 pm »
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Re: Difference between dumb and asshole
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2013, 09:53:07 pm »
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OK again for you very slow:

You are agree with me saying ' not avoiding pain is stupid.      :arrow:A) being stupid= not avoiding pain
IN the case a hammer falls towards someones face you agree doing nothing is stupid(because of A not avoiduing pain).  :arrow:B) doing nothing= being stupid
and if you do nothing you can't do stupid things.  :arrow:C: doing nothing =not doing stupid things
if you agree with these three sentences I can conclude:
B: being stupid=doing nothing
C:                     doing nothing=not doing stupid things
   being stupid=not doing stupid things.

this conclusion contradicts you sentence "you stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things."


or the other way around.
Your sentence "you stop being stupid when you stop doing stupid things."
can be shortened to:A) not being stupid= not doing stupid things.

if you agree that you can't do stupid things when you do nothing I can say
  B) doing nothing= not doing stupid things
 If I combine A and B I get C) not being stupid = doing nothing.
If we use the case with the falling hammer we can build
D) doing nothing = not avoiding pain.
combine C and d we would get the conclusion
C not being stupid = doing nothing
D                            doing nothing= not avoiding pain
not being stupid= not avoiding pain.

And you already stated that this conclusion is not true. so your sentence which leads to this conclusion is not true.



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