Time to end the range whine.

[Tzar]

First of all i wanna say, that i really hate archers, its the only ranged class i hate cause of the amount of dmg and havoc they can wreck with bodkin arrows the amount of arrows they carry an their fast little bows.

BUT!!! I've settled with that, an accepted that for people who wont bother to learn or play melee should have a option to deal the same dmg.


People, srly.. have you forgotten how much op and retarded they used to be, when one single archer could outrun 7 inf players and shoot em to death solo :

My point is, range is fine as it is now, so stop complaining about range, just be thankful that they made archers unable to kite, that was the most retarded demotivating factor to play this mod ever

So just try an adapt, an stick together an use shield walls.

Avoid charging a hill with a range stack.

Dont go out in the open, when outnumbered by range.

Let cav try an harrash the range blob before you charge.

In short, stop charging like retards, also try an dodge more. Nothing is more easy to land hits on, then a guy running in a straight line.

[Molly]

You drunk?

[Villain]

First of all i wanna say, that i really hate archers, its the only ranged class i hate cause of the amount of dmg and havoc they can wreck with bodkin arrows the amount of arrows they carry an their fast little bows.

BUT!!! I've settled with that, an accepted that for people who wont bother to learn or play melee should have a option to deal the same dmg.


People, srly.. have you forgotten how much op and retarded they used to be, when one single archer could outrun 7 inf players and shoot em to death solo :

My point is, range is fine as it is now, so stop complaining about range, just be thankful that they made archers unable to kite, that was the most retarded demotivating factor to play this mod ever

So just try an adapt, an stick together an use shield walls.

Avoid charging a hill with a range stack.

Dont go out in the open, when outnumbered by range.

Let cav try an harrash the range blob before you charge.

In short, stop charging like retards, also try an dodge more. Nothing is more easy to land hits on, then a guy running in a straight line.

I think your right in every point except one, BAN BODKINS! But yes adapt, get 1-3 shield skill with ur 2h weapon , or go shielder. So many things to counter it. Remember we gay mele, they gay range. Everyone's gay.

Giev looms plox

[Tzar]

You drunk?

No, i just remembered how retarded archery where back when they could kite, an now we at least have a chance to fight back. So ive stopped an thought, how come people still wanna nerf ranged  :

An ive noticed that, its only when the server becomes disorganized that inf blob gets ridiculed by ranged.

Also with the motf comming [Granted i know its not working right now, since spawn is bugged] I really dont think people will keep hating archery so much, so nerfing them wont do any good.

[Miwiw]

You're crying all day about archers, and now you see it different? Stop drinking boy.

[Moncho]

Who are you and what have you done with Tzar?

[Adamar]

Some ranged hacked his account.

[Tibe]

Inform moderators. Someone clearly has Tzar's account and is making pro-archer posts.

[Chris_the_Animal]

Tzar is posting something constructive and you guys make jokes? Shame on you! 

Im with you Tzar.
Today EU 1 at 6pm gmt+1 we had the Fallen Archer Crew on the Server. About 50% of one team were these Archers. I know Fallens arent the best, but still they can play ranged decent. ;)

So there was the Melee Team and the Ranged Team and actually only the Melee side cried all map long while the Ranged kept firing at them while standing due to writing...In the end the ranged lost as many rounds as the Melees

--> the shit was balanced. Melees got into some teamwork and used their brains and they fucked the ranged team pretty good.

[Tzar]

Instead of asking for range nerfs, i dont understand why we dont try an ask for melee buff.

Part of the reason people go range is because of the restrictions thats been put on melee.

Biggest of em all are the turn rate nerfs. Which for the love of god, really killed lot of the fun for melee players.

[Miwiw]

Instead of asking for range nerfs, i dont understand why we dont try an ask for melee buff

Simply because melee doesn't need a buff.

[Tzar]

Simply because melee doesn't need a buff.

k.

Wasn't, really a buff, more a buff fun factor for the melee crowd. Dont see how it effects you :

[Adamar]

It might. I had suggested making plate armor particularly good at glancing arrows, so that melee players could always pull that one in their inventories, if the map was heavy on ranged. Balancing through buffs is always better.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

It might. I had suggested making plate armor particularly good at glancing arrows, so that melee players could always pull that one in their inventories, if the map was heavy on ranged. Balancing through buffs is always better.

Plate armor makes the game a million times more boring.

[Leshma]

Damn you, Tzar. You found out about my secret plan you Byzmy old friend.

I've opened first nerf archery topic in months to test the waters. Luckily, people agreed with me. But whole point is to change the way players perceive archery. By acting like angry melee turd in nerf archery topics and presenting actual facts about archery in change (read: buff) archery threads I wanted to turn the tide and actually buff my desired hybrid archer and revert last few nerfs Paul did. But now my cover has been blown, by a member of Byzantium Kingdom.

I apologize for trying to manipulate the devs and for lobbying in general. It's Thomek's fault, he taught me this wizardry.

In other words, you can proceed with archery nerfs, I won't try to stop you.