im fat im fat oh god im fat

[Leshma]

Only difference is that our ancestors mostly ate meat and vegetables. No bread, no white sugar, processed meat and stuff like that.

But I like where you are going with this thread, Xant. Keep up the good work

[Torben]

umbra is right about fat loss being achieved in that steady state,  as the only energy system being used at that point is the one burning fat.  however it also runs in the background during all the other exercise forms that use other energy systems.
all in all,  if you want to keep it simple,  go with umbra.  why would you want to burn your glycogene or muscle mass,  if your goal is to loose  fat.
also very good hint is the drinking water one:
you have two satiety receptors,  one measuring your blood sugar,  and more importantly here: one in the stomach measuring the stretching of the stomach wall.  so if you drink loads of water,  the latter will tend to be satisfied : )
the former will over all be more satisfied with many smaller meals over the day,  cause your blood sugar levels will be steady,  whilst being too high after a huge meal,  and too low during the rest of the day if you only eat one  meal a day.
also,  one  meal a day can have either good or bad impact on the stomach stretch receptor,  depending on how big or small that one meal is.

xant:  our ancestors werent made to be obese or to actively loose weight,  so that argument doesnt count when we are talking about a fat man wanting to loose weight,  in an environment that isnt comparable to one in which our ancestors lived.  unfortunately.

berenger is on to something as well,  think of it in motorhead terms:  a v12 will burn more gas then a silly lawnmower. if you have bigger muscles,  mearly existing costs more energy the if you have small ones,  not to mention actually moving about  : )

[Xant]

I never said eat many times a day to speed up your metabolism. I personally eat 3, max 4 times a day. It's just unhealthy to eat only once per day, and it will make you gain more fat than eating several meals per day.

Especially combined with training of whatever kind, it would be totally retarded to eat only once per day.

Why, because you said so? In that case, it is unhealthy to eat more than once a day.

[Umbra]

Uh, no it won't. The whole "eat many times a day to speed up your metabolism" thing is mostly a marketing trick. At best it'll burn 10 to 20 calories more. Eating once a day is how our ancestors ate and what our bodies are adapted to.

Marketing trick for what?

[LordBerenger]

Marketing trick for what?

Illuminati merchandise obvs

[Umbra]

Illuminati merchandise obvs

Illuminati approved food for 5-6 times a day eating. Its different from one meal a day food of course 

[Xant]

Marketing trick for those who benefit from it obviously.

[no_rules_just_play]

Umbra you don't have to make it so complicated man. It's very simple actually.

First law of thermodynamics: energy in = energy out.
If you burn more than you eat you will lose weight.

How to eat less?
1)Artyem posted myfitnesspal.com, this is where you start. Countig calories is probably the only way that works. You can eat less and cut out sweets but it will go slower and you will underestimate what you eat.

2) eat healthy: you need fats, proteins and carbs. Sugar should be minimized.

3)skipping breakfast: somebody already mentioned this. The body isn't build to be stuffed all the time. We need a daily period of fasting where our insulin is low. During this period your body will be able to rapidly burn fat instead of 'scraping' it off. I suggest not eatingg untill 1 or 2 pm, this will also render you less hungry and tired.
If you want to take it a step further, have a 'undereating window' after your fasting window where you don't eat any carbs (except green veggies) and keep your protein intake under 25-30g. Fats don't raise insulin so don't worry about those.

How to burn more?
1) cardio is hands down the best way to burn fat. This video explains why. (on my phone so shitty link). This doesn't mean lifting or HIIT is bad, doing both cardio and lifting will increase your muscle mass (noobgains) and will burn fat! The extra muscle you put on will also help you raise your metabolidm.

Don't overthink stuff like your heartbeat etc... There is no need for that

 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NGKLpYtZ19Q&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNGKLpYtZ19Q

(shitty link because of phone)

[no_rules_just_play]

Marketing trick for what?

Hey guys, you know you have to eat 6 meals/day? Yeah even when you are at work where you don't have time to prepare an actual meal.
Here take this, it's a protein shake so you can use it as meal replacement. Don't forget to eat tons of it, a recent study we just funded says you need to eat atleast 1g/lbs bodyweight.

Also if you don't have a shitload of protein 5 minutes after your training you will lose all your gains. Ofcourse it has to be protein powder from our brand because otherwise your body won't break it down.

[LordBerenger]

Umbra you don't have to make it so complicated man. It's very simple actually.

First law of thermodynamics: energy in = energy out.
If you burn more than you eat you will lose weight.

How to eat less?
1)Artyem posted myfitnesspal.com, this is where you start. Countig calories is probably the only way that works. You can eat less and cut out sweets but it will go slower and you will underestimate what you eat.

2) eat healthy: you need fats, proteins and carbs. Sugar should be minimized.

3)skipping breakfast: somebody already mentioned this. The body isn't build to be stuffed all the time. We need a daily period of fasting where our insulin is low. During this period your body will be able to rapidly burn fat instead of 'scraping' it off. I suggest not eatingg untill 1 or 2 pm, this will also render you less hungry and tired.
If you want to take it a step further, have a 'undereating window' after your fasting window where you don't eat any carbs (except green veggies) and keep your protein intake under 25-30g. Fats don't raise insulin so don't worry about those.

How to burn more?
1) cardio is hands down the best way to burn fat. This video explains why. (on my phone so shitty link). This doesn't mean lifting or HIIT is bad, doing both cardio and lifting will increase your muscle mass (noobgains) and will burn fat! The extra muscle you put on will also help you raise your metabolidm.

Don't overthink stuff like your heartbeat etc... There is no need for that.

 http://www.google.be/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNGKLpYtZ19Q&ei=_o-5UrqgCKfmywPQ1oHABQ&usg=AFQjCNHlWS_w0yJKuZJh47KVdwSCFOuxMA

+1 Besides skipping breakfast. Especially if you go to the gym/exercise before lunch time or got early work n shit.

[Rumblood]

Umbra you don't have to make it so complicated man. It's very simple actually.

First law of thermodynamics: energy in = energy out.
If you burn more than you eat you will lose weight.

How to eat less?
1)Artyem posted myfitnesspal.com, this is where you start. Countig calories is probably the only way that works. You can eat less and cut out sweets but it will go slower and you will underestimate what you eat.

2) eat healthy: you need fats, proteins and carbs. Sugar should be minimized.

3)skipping breakfast: somebody already mentioned this. The body isn't build to be stuffed all the time. We need a daily period of fasting where our insulin is low. During this period your body will be able to rapidly burn fat instead of 'scraping' it off. I suggest not eatingg untill 1 or 2 pm, this will also render you less hungry and tired.
If you want to take it a step further, have a 'undereating window' after your fasting window where you don't eat any carbs (except green veggies) and keep your protein intake under 25-30g. Fats don't raise insulin so don't worry about those.

How to burn more?
1) cardio is hands down the best way to burn fat. This video explains why. (on my phone so shitty link). This doesn't mean lifting or HIIT is bad, doing both cardio and lifting will increase your muscle mass (noobgains) and will burn fat! The extra muscle you put on will also help you raise your metabolidm.

Don't overthink stuff like your heartbeat etc... There is no need for that.

 http://www.google.be/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNGKLpYtZ19Q&ei=_o-5UrqgCKfmywPQ1oHABQ&usg=AFQjCNHlWS_w0yJKuZJh47KVdwSCFOuxMA

Says losing fat is simple.

Posts manifesto to prove it.

[Leshma]

It is simple for most of the guys around here. They are 15-21 years old, don't forget that

[Umbra]

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Umbra you don't have to make it so complicated man. It's very simple actually.

First law of thermodynamics: energy in = energy out.
If you burn more than you eat you will lose weight.

How to eat less?
1)Artyem posted myfitnesspal.com, this is where you start. Countig calories is probably the only way that works. You can eat less and cut out sweets but it will go slower and you will underestimate what you eat.

2) eat healthy: you need fats, proteins and carbs. Sugar should be minimized.

3)skipping breakfast: somebody already mentioned this. The body isn't build to be stuffed all the time. We need a daily period of fasting where our insulin is low. During this period your body will be able to rapidly burn fat instead of 'scraping' it off. I suggest not eatingg untill 1 or 2 pm, this will also render you less hungry and tired.
If you want to take it a step further, have a 'undereating window' after your fasting window where you don't eat any carbs (except green veggies) and keep your protein intake under 25-30g. Fats don't raise insulin so don't worry about those.

How to burn more?
1) cardio is hands down the best way to burn fat. This video explains why. (on my phone so shitty link). This doesn't mean lifting or HIIT is bad, doing both cardio and lifting will increase your muscle mass (noobgains) and will burn fat! The extra muscle you put on will also help you raise your metabolidm.

Don't overthink stuff like your heartbeat etc... There is no need for that.

 http://www.google.be/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNGKLpYtZ19Q&ei=_o-5UrqgCKfmywPQ1oHABQ&usg=AFQjCNHlWS_w0yJKuZJh47KVdwSCFOuxMA

Whatever works for you is great, i simply posted what worked for me. I encourage everyone to find their own routine, get fit, and live a healthier lifestyle regardless of age.
I would personaly strongly disagree about skipping breakfast, but every body reacts diferently. If you get results this way, by all means go for it.

[no_rules_just_play]

That doesn't mean you can't build in a fasting period;)

Having mine from 9pm to 1pm perfectly fits my training, I have my overeating period perfectly after it so my insulin spikes like crazy (insulin is needed for muscle growth)
I got my scheme from 'the renegade diet' by jason ferrugia. He has a whole chapter on alternatives if you have your training in the morning ;)

[Thomek]

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