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Offline Leshma

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Buff archery
« on: December 19, 2013, 04:32:46 pm »
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Obviously, straightforward approach isn't working, I've decided to change it.

Why should we buff archers? Reasons listed:
  • Quiver weight is just too much, shielder is faster, please halve quiver weight
  • It's harder than ever to be proper, STR archer because free wpf was removed and high PD means less effective wpf, please fix
  • Can't wear proper armor, must play in rags to keep speed, gettin' one hit by 2H spammer nubs, please fix
  • Longbow and Rusbow, only decent looking bows are terribad, please change
  • Can't mix arrows, can't choose which to shoot, to kill pesent and tincan too, please make possible
  • They nudge and hit me with gloves, it hurts, they think funny, I lose HP, please protect
  • Can't fight melee, no wpf left, xbow has melee and kill with one shot, unfair xbow, please change and give melee wpf
  • Get low points, kill many but points middle tier, please change
Discuss.

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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 04:35:05 pm »
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ps. nerf instastab
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 07:41:37 pm »
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Or just have MotF pop up a minute or two into every round, then infantry gets to fight for control of the flags, while archers hide on a hill on the outskirts of the map.

The "fix" to ranged being "OP" (in numbers) is to give infantry an objective to fight over.  This will be a lot better than having them run around in circles chasing archers, or camping behind a building for 4 minutes until motf pops up.
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 08:15:55 pm »
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You must be really brave to suggest a buff to archery after all those nerf/rage archery threads  :lol:
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2013, 08:26:44 pm »
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2/10, wouldn't read again  :wink:
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 09:01:48 pm »
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You must be really brave to suggest a buff to archery after all those nerf/rage archery threads  :lol:

Just shizophrenic. You never know which of the voices inside Leshma's head have taken over at the given moment.
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 09:04:09 pm »
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I expected an upvote from you, not to mimic Oberyn.

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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 09:06:25 pm »
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That Oberyn post was quite accurate though.
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 10:21:44 pm »
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Is that trolling or is it really that Leshma thinks...

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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 01:01:31 pm »
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Is that trolling or is it really that Leshma thinks...

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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 01:37:21 pm »
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wow, Leshma finally came around and saw the light? :)

oh - I guess this is supposed to be sarcasm. Tehehe.

  • Quiver weight is just too much, shielder is faster, please halve quiver weight. Infuckingdeed.
  • It's harder than ever to be proper, STR archer because free wpf was removed and high PD means less effective wpf, please fix. Correct. Doo eet.
  • Can't wear proper armor, must play in rags to keep speed, gettin' one hit by 2H spammer nubs, please fix. Nah, real archers love their rags and woolen caps. That is a nub suggestion.
  • Longbow and Rusbow, only decent looking bows are terribad, please change. Fact.
  • Can't mix arrows, can't choose which to shoot, to kill pesent and tincan too, please make possible. Not needed. Just fix fucking looting problem.
  • They nudge and hit me with gloves, it hurts, they think funny, I lose HP, please protect. This IS funny. No fix please, lol
  • Can't fight melee, no wpf left, xbow has melee and kill with one shot, unfair xbow, please change and give melee wpf. No, just fuck xbow over already.
  • Get low points, kill many but points middle tier, please change. Infuckingdeed, scoreboardcrutching noobs.

...and buff donkey archers, Genoveva needs to be fastest steed on battlefield when there is an archer on her back!!!  :mrgreen:
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 01:52:21 pm by Hirlok »
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2013, 02:00:33 pm »
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A non archer trying to balance archers  :rolleyes:
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 02:18:02 pm »
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A non archer trying to balance archers  :rolleyes:

been happening for the last 3 yrs... ;-)
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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 03:14:50 pm »
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Well IMO some of those are legitimate.

  • It's harder than ever to be proper, STR archer because free wpf was removed and high PD means less effective wpf, please fix
  • Can't wear proper armor, must play in rags to keep speed, gettin' one hit by 2H spammer nubs, please fix
  • Longbow and Rusbow, only decent looking bows are terribad, please change
  • Can't mix arrows, can't choose which to shoot, to kill pesent and tincan too, please make possible
  • Can't fight melee, no wpf left, xbow has melee and kill with one shot, unfair xbow, please change and give melee wpf
  • Get low points, kill many but points middle tier, please change

But are sometimes also caused by the archer's unwillingness to trade a little bit of ranged power for anything else (like armor or melee wpf).

However, I don't think those that go full archer wpf with armor just below the malus threshold are making an error in reasoning. The game actually pushes them to do that. If you can avoid melee entirely, there is no point investing in PS or melee wpf. Hence why you often see players that have been archers since forever literally running around with those pure ranged builds.

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Re: Buff archery
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2013, 06:31:49 pm »
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