Give spears on horseback old attack angle?

[Macropus]

*Note that I'm not talking about lances, only spears like War Spear or maybe even shorter, it's up to devs to decide what length is enough.

Think it would create an almost entirely new cavalry class.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Would be awesome if the lengthier lances had most stat nerfs undone and lance angle then depended on weapon reach.

[Macropus]

Bump, give lancers some more versality!

[San]

Tried asking cmp in the past, don't think it can be done.

[Lamk]

Are we  talking about an overhead attack from a spear on horseback?

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Vikingr cavalry with spear can do an overhead attack  like on the picture. If I am right, it is also using WSE 2

[Macropus]

Are we  talking about an overhead attack from a spear on horseback?

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I see absolutely no reason to hold the spear like that, unless you're going to throw it.

[Lamk]

I see absolutely no reason to hold the spear like that, unless you're going to throw it.

I tried to find information on the subject but I have not been successful

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These are Norman knights holding their spear above their head to kill their ennemies

[//saxon]

Light cav.

[JasonPastman]

Stop fucking with cav please.

[MURDERTRON]

I think an underhanded grip is only good for couching with a lance.  It provides good stability with the back of the shaft under your armpit, but its pretty hard to actually generate force outside of the horse's movement like that.  An overhand grip allows you to generate your own force, though it is less stable.  It also makes it easier to retract your weapon and provides an odd angle that may go over shields and make it difficult for infantry to defend against.

[Rebelyell]

Tried asking cmp in the past, don't think it can be done.

maybe we should add new animation with diffrend weapon type and link it to polearm WPF
or just change animation to 1h thrust and then link it with polearm WPF

[MURDERTRON]

maybe we should add new animation with diffrend weapon type and link it to polearm WPF
or just change animation to 1h thrust and then link it with polearm WPF

Lancing angle should be tied to WPF because going pure lancer is pretty stupid these days.  Polearm wpf only gives a negligible speed increase to lancing, which some lancers believe to be a bad thing.  Plus lances are stupid expensive for their actual performance.

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

Remove cav from the game they're OP and annoying and stupid stupid stupid.

[JasonPastman]

I personally, am happy with the current state of cav.  Would I like to see a buff to lances? Sure. Is it necessary? No, but I would argue justified.  If you give spears the 360 then you make all other melee cav weapons obsolete (besides those couching lances), and your gonna piss off the 50% of foot troops who can't manage cav as it is even more.  What I would like to see and is a higher reduction in glancing. Beyond that, however I would say that melee cav right now is pretty balanced. In terms of cost per kill I feel that light cav is a little under powered while heavy might be a little over powered, but again only slightly.

[Tzar]

Macropus is only talking about the short spears. NOT LANCES!! GOD READ THE THREAD BEFORE U POST!!!

On the note of lances, they could need a buff, since they are complete shit compared to 1h cav and Great lance cav!